CSB mid-season rankings

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  1. Duff88

    Duff88 Registered User

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    Are they up somewhere?

    RDS says that this :

    1- Kyle Chipchura
    2- Andrew Ladd
    3- Wojtech Wolski
    4- Alexandre Picard
    5- Cam Barker

    ...

    30- Petr Pohl

    But I can't seem to find the complete N-A list. Anyone has it?

    BTW, this list seem odd, as CSB's usual lists...
     
  2. What I currently see on the site is the following but the list is not complete and there are no International rankings either. I wouldn't trust this until its a complete list.

    1 CHIPCHURA, KYLE
    2 LADD, ANDREW
    3 WOLSKI, WOJTEK
    4 PICARD, ALEXANDRE
    5 BARKER, CAMERON
    6 BOLLAND, DAVE
    7 SCHREMP, ROBBIE
    8 GREEN, MIKE
    9 STAFFORD, DREW
    10 MEIDL, VACLAV

    #edit# having looked further into the site, the pdf links have ALL the rankings of both NA & International players and the 240 skaters & 30 goaltenders in NA.
     
  3. Kev88

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    I know! :rolly: I just wanted to start a thread like this when I saw it on RDS when I opened my PC, after I went to central scouting.com and they give the top 9 NA

    Rd: MT Rank: Player Name: League Team Birth Date: Height: Weight: Pos: Shoots: GP: G/MIN: A/GA: PTS/SO: PIM/AVG:
    1 CHIPCHURA, KYLE WHL PRINCE ALBERT 2/19/1986 6' 2" 197 C L 38 10 24 34 63
    2 LADD, ANDREW WHL CALGARY 12/12/1985 6' 2" 200 LW L 36 15 22 37 50
    3 WOLSKI, WOJTEK OHL BRAMPTON 2/24/1986 6' 3" 200 LW L 34 15 21 36 20
    4 PICARD, ALEXANDRE QMJHL LEWISTON 10/9/1985 6' 2" 190 LW L 36 23 20 43 54
    5 BARKER, CAMERON WHL MEDICINE HAT 4/4/1986 6' 2.5" 207 D L 37 11 20 31 47
    6 BOLLAND, DAVE OHL LONDON 5/6/1986 5' 11.5" 171 C,RW R 32 22 10 32 32
    7 SCHREMP, ROBBIE OHL LONDON 7/1/1986 5' 11" 197 C L 31 18 21 39 10
    8 GREEN, MIKE WHL SASKATOON 10/12/1985 6' 1" 195 D R 32 9 16 25 45
    9 STAFFORD, DREW WCHA UNIVERSITY OF NORTH DAKOTA 10/30/1985 6' 1.5" 202 RW R 13 6 9 15 12
     
  4. If you click on the PDF link at the top, you can get the ENTIRE list in excel or pdf formats. I had to check out the new releases to find this out myself.
     
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    Where??????? :eek:
     
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    Thanks!
     
  7. Since I realize that some people don't have access to the CSB site (though there is a public login), I got both excel spreadsheets & put them together into a webpage.

    There are buttons at the bottom of the page to switch between NA & Int'l player rankings. Enjoy!

    http://www.coolburn.com/CSB_midterm.htm
     
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    SAMI LEPISTÖ is rated 4th of the Europeans! :eek: I knew he was really great, but not at this point! He's in front of Smid, Kaspar, Radulov, Fransson... and Tukonen at 11th!
     
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    As usual, I hate the list...
     
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    ME TOO!!!! :rant:
     
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    Cam Barker 5th in NA? So hard to impress...
     
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    Thanks for doing that...much appreciated!
     
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    This is a nice surprise. I had no idea they'd be out today. I was expecting some time in February. Anyway, like them or hate them, they give me an idea of who to look out for (when it comes to the lower-ranked players).
     
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    The rankings are pretty weird. I didn't expected that! But it's interesting...
     
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    Do they actually try to rank the players in terms of NHL potential for the draft, or are they ranking them based on how good they are now. If the latter, it almost makes sense, somehow, sometimes.
     
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    I definitely don't agree at all with the North American rankings. IMO It's the most disagreable that I can ever remember.

    Barker 5th?
    Mcgrath 15th?
    Wes O Neill 19th?
    Adam Pineault 21?
    Michal Sersen 49th?
    Jonathan Siglet 85th?
    Mike Card 204th?

    David Brown 29th in goalies?

    Some of those are just crazy IMO
     
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    Rich Panther = The Man. Thanks! :handclap:

    Also, for what it's worth, Lepisto isn't in RLR's top 50. :dunno:
     
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    Wow, David Bolland ahead of Robbie Schremp.
     
  19. Hey, glad I could help out HF. I definitely do NOT agree with most of the list but I remember that the midterm rankings last yr had some differences to the final rankings too. And if you look at the final rankings from last yr, you'll see several players getting drafted higher/lower than their ranking (like Jessiman was ranked #20 and Stewart was ranked #19 but Stewart was drafted after Jessiman...this isn't even mentioned Patrick O'Sullivan who was ranked #14).
     
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    Has Chipcura always been considered number one for NA players?

    I've been under the impression that it's been Barker... :dunno:

    The next five months should be interesting, to say the least.

    The two players I like the most outside of the top players are Tukonen and Nokelainen. But I doubt either will last until the second round, especially Tukonen.
     
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    Red Line Report certainly wont be happy with these rankings, considering how high their on David Browns potential.
     
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    He is kind of hard to rank, on the one hand he was possibly the best dman in WJC, has had an excellent season in SM-Liiga so far and all and all is just a damn good offencive dman with solid all-around game. OTOH, he'll turn 20 next October and is practicly two years older than Tukonen or Malkin for example. And he is kind of small for a dman, but then again after Jackman's success the scouts may be less hesitant about six feet defenceman (BTW, almost every top dman in NHL is between 6-0 and 6-2.)

    Then again he has already displayed ability instead of mere potential, so you pretty much know what you get, which is nice.
     
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    Based on the Central Scouting Bureau's Mid-Term Ranking, Devan Dubnyk, goalie of the Kamloops Blazers' stock has fallen. Wasn't he projected to be the first North American goalie taken in the draft. Dubnyk is currently ranked third behind Montoya and Shantz. It will be interesting to see how the final rankings turn out.
     
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    177 HEATLEY, MARK WCHA UNIVERSITY OF WISCONSIN 4-May-84 6' 3" 195 RW L

    Brother of Dany?

    Also Ray Bourque's kid is 198th...
     
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