Crosby vs. McDavid: 1000 Points?

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  1. steveayres35

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    Wayne Gretzky Youngest to 1000 Points

    Now, scoring 1000 points before your 24th birthday sounds like an impossible task in today's NHL, but when you compare Crosby & McDavid, can McDavid score 1000 points before he turns 29?
     
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    Probably. Crosby missed, like, 20% of his available games before he did that.
     
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    McDavid right now is 21 and is already at 269 points. There are like 40 games between now and when he turns 22. He'll be at like 310-320 points by the time he turns 22, so he'll need like 680-690 points in 7 years to hit 1000 points before turning 29. So if he stays healthy, easily yes. He can probably miss up to a season or season and a half worth of games before he may run into some difficulty.
     
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    Crosby had 397 points in 290 games at 21 years old. He ran into injury troubles or would have hit 1000 at age 26
     
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    If he stays healthy, yes definitely. He’s able to put up 100 points every season until he’s 29.
     
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    I’m not too sure tough he can do it faster than Crosby who did it in 757 games, he would have to average more than 1,32 ppg
     
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    He likely won't be able to do it in as few games as Crosby did, but he'll likely do it earlier because he likely won't run into the bad injury luck that younger Crosby had.
     
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    We hope he won't run into the trouble that Crosby did. McDavid is fun to watch. That kid can freaking move!
     
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    Well ignoring that scoring was higher when Crosby came into the league then no McDavid won't do it in fewer games.
     
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    Thats always the most difficult part about comparing players of different eras (which is crazy to think they are different era players, even though they are only 10 years apart. the league has changed a lot in those 10 years) but the league seems to have its ups and down in scoring and I think this season is one of the highest scoring in a while. maybe the young talent around the league and smaller goalie equipment is going to favor McDavid in the long run just like the whistle happy post 05 lockout helped Sid for a few years at least.
     
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    Scoring last year and so far this year has been higher than it was from 2006-2007 to when McDavid came into the NHL.

    NHL League Averages | Hockey-Reference.com

    Goals/game of 3.11 this year and 2.97 last year. 2005-2006 was at 3.08 goals/game and 2006-2007 was at 2.95 goals/game. I don't know why people keep repeating this myth, scoring went back to the super high levels from after the 2005 lockout last year.
     
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    Not an easy task but he could !
     
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    I think that's the biggest question.

    Scoring levels have fluctuated some over the years - but it's not all that huge. Nothing like the 80s vs now.

    Short of major injuries if McDavid doesn't hit 1000 points "younger" than Crosby it will be a pretty big disappointment, considering how much time Crosby missed. And they are comparable in terms of skill/ability, so he should be able to hit it younger
     
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    This it could be has good for McDavid if not better scoring wise, with is speed McDavid should rack points in 3v3 situation during is career for example, with way less shootout were player's do not get credited a point.
     
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    League average goals isn't the only consideration though. Look at the league leaders in 06-07 compared to last year. PPs significantly affect the elite players more than the rest of the league, and while PPOs went up last year, they still aren't at levels directly after the lockout. There's now more of an emphasis on depth scoring and puck moving defenseman than there was after the lockout, which has led to more ES scoring throughout the lineup, but that doesn't affect top liners as much as PP time.
     
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    But that's not what was said. What was said was league scoring was way higher when Crosby entered the league. That's demonstrably false, and it will likely continue to be false as the NHL further emphasizes scoring. McDavid will probably end up having a more favorable league to put up points than Crosby had when he was in his early 20s, because the NHL is actively trying to promote goal scoring now.
     
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    Lol, for one thing it still wasn't as high as it was from 2005-07, and for another McDavid played 130 games before last season...
     
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    I said scoring was higher, you added the way part.
     
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    But league GPG is irrelevant if it isn't specifically helping McDavid. We'll see what happens going forward, but Crosby had a definite advantage in his first 3 seasons in terms of how easy it was to put up points.
     
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    He would need 731 points in at most 540 games, which is a 1.35 PPG the rest of the way. He's currently at 1.25, so it would be tough but not impossible. If he can reach a new level of production by maintaining his ES points and increasing his PP scoring, and staying healthy through his peak years (unlike Crosby who could have done it in less games if he had), he'd have a shot.
     
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    Weren't PPs given out like candy back then?
     
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    Didn't Ovechkin get to 1000 points faster than Crosby?
     
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    More interested in games played than age. We cant control our birthdays and injuries happen.
     
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    It was lower in Crosby’s prime too though
     

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