Rumor: Crosby, Malkin only Penguins "untouchable" trade pieces

[justafan22]

Report: Only Crosby, Malkin 'untouchable' for Pens on trade market

Thoughts?

EDIT (Rossi Mentions Guentzel as unlikely trade candidate, and they want to extend Murray)

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[SoundwaveIsCharisma]

I'd take Kessel on the Avs, not sure what it would take.

 

[RABBIT]

Kessel to the Yotes confirmed. Tocchet welcomes his sweet prince home.

 

[wej20]

Can't really see any reason for Guentzel or Murray to be traded but yeah the list of untouchables should be pretty short.

 

[Toby Flenderson]

I'd take Kessel on the Avs, not sure what it would take.

Your 1st (not OTT) plus Girard?

 

[Mike Jones]

Do the Pens want to panic now? Isn't this some sort of weird cycle for them? Miss the playoffs - get swept - win everything - rinse and repeat.

 

[Empoleon8771]

From that article:

The Penguins explored trading Kessel last summer, and he was agreeable to playing for the Arizona Coyotes, multiple sources told Rossi.

It's not just Rossi saying this either, I have heard from a lot of people (as in beat writers and insiders) that Kessel was willing to go to Arizona. He's almost definitely going to Arizona this off-season.

 

[Riseonfire]

They could get a haul for Malkin......

 

[Lonewolfe2015]

Your 1st (not OTT) plus Girard?

Girard alone for Kessel isn't palatable. Avs have high expectations for him and his value won't equal that on the trade market yet.

Maybe for the 1st, but Avs are probably better off being patient and using their cap in free agency.

 

[Empoleon8771]

Kessel to the Yotes confirmed. Tocchet welcomes his sweet prince home.

I would be very surprised for Kessel to not be on the Coyotes by July 1st. It just makes way too much sense to not happen.

Do the Pens want to panic now? Isn't this some sort of weird cycle for them? Miss the playoffs - get swept - win everything - rinse and repeat.

I don't really view trading anyone outside of Crosby, Malkin, Murray and Guentzel to be "panicking".

 

[Captain Mountain]

Do the Pens want to panic now? Isn't this some sort of weird cycle for them? Miss the playoffs - get swept - win everything - rinse and repeat.

I don't think Pittsburgh is panicking, but it was probably easier to be relaxed about bouncing back when Malkin and Crosby were in their 20s.

Malkin turns 33 in July, Crosby turns 32 in August, their 4 highest paid players are in their 30s and they have a lot of cap tied up long term in some...questionable...D-men.

I think the org (and fans) are just aware that the Crosby and Malkin aren't going to be elite forever and you want to put the team in the best position to succeed while they're still playing at superstar levels.

 

[Mike Jones]

If they are going to make moves are there any buyout candidates?

 

[Habs 4 Life]

I personally think it's time for them to move Malkin as they can still get a solid return for him and keep being a good team with Crosby on board
They probably don't give a shit though and want Sid/Geno to retire as Penguins which I wouldn't blame them for that either
It's easier for them to move guys like Kessel, Horqvist, Rust, Maatta and build around what they already have in place

 

[Mosby]

I would be very surprised for Kessel to not be on the Coyotes by July 1st. It just makes way too much sense to not happen.

I'm wondering if we take on Kessel at full bore or we try to send back dollars like Goligoski.

 

[Toby Flenderson]

Girard alone for Kessel isn't palatable. Avs have high expectations for him and his value won't equal that on the trade market yet.

Maybe for the 1st, but Avs are probably better off being patient and using their cap in free agency.

Kessel is ppg player and top line winger... why are you saying “maybe” your 1st, which is looking like a mid-late one at that haha that’s absolutely the starting point.

If they don’t want to that’s fine, someone else will. And they can go to free agency but unless they land Panarin they aren’t getting a player near Kessel’s caliber.

 

[Cousin Eddie]

Kerfoot + 16th overall for Kessel.

 

[Toby Flenderson]

I'm wondering if we take on Kessel at full bore or we try to send back dollars like Goligoski.

No I think Kessel at 6.8 is very movable without money having to come back. Especially not Goligoski, we have way too much money tied up in average defensemen.

 

[Empoleon8771]

I'm wondering if we take on Kessel at full bore or we try to send back dollars like Goligoski.

I wouldn't know Arizona's cap structure well enough to comment, but based on the Penguins really lacking a 2nd pair LD and puck moving talent on their defense, Goligoski would be an incredibly attractive option as a cap throw in personally. Has he fallen off dramatically?

The guys that stick out to me as logical targets for the Penguins are Goligoski, Hinostroza, Fischer, Dvorak and Arizona's 1st rounder. I could see Goligoski, Fischer and Arizona's 1st for Kessel being a reasonable suggestion for a deal.

 

[Toby Flenderson]

I wouldn't know Arizona's cap structure well enough to comment, but based on the Penguins really lacking a 2nd pair LD and puck moving talent on their defense, Goligoski would be an incredibly attractive option as a cap throw in personally. Has he fallen off dramatically?

The guys that stick out to me as logical targets for the Penguins are Goligoski, Hinostroza, Fischer, Dvorak and Arizona's 1st rounder. I could see Goligoski, Fischer and Arizona's 1st for Kessel being a reasonable suggestion for a deal.

The only way Goligoski is a part of that deal is if JR can move out Maatta and Johnson. Goligoski makes too much to just add to what we already have. Not only that but Pitt needs youth and speed on the back end, and goligoski is in decline

 

[Mosby]

No I think Kessel at 6.8 is very movable without money having to come back. Especially not Goligoski, we have way too much money tied up in average defensemen.

It's not so much cap with Arizona as it is budget.

 

[Rabid Ranger]

Kessel would be a nice add for a team like the Yotes. They need a bit more scoring punch to be a true contender in the West.

 

[HolyGhost]

Report: Only Crosby, Malkin 'untouchable' for Pens on trade market

Thoughts?

EDIT (Rossi Mentions Guentzel as unlikely trade candidate, and they want to extend Murray)

I forgot the score as still around..do they have any on air personalities?

 

[K Fleur]

It's never time to trade Malkin. Real life isn't your NHL19 Be a GM mode.

 

[Toby Flenderson]

It's not so much cap with Arizona as it is budget.

Fair point. Maybe they can make a deal with Seattle to take a guy with cap to make up for the difference. I just don’t think Pitt would be interested in taking a cap dump in a Kessel deal. 14th OA plus Fischer/Dvorak is perfect for us

 

[Mosby]

I wouldn't know Arizona's cap structure well enough to comment, but based on the Penguins really lacking a 2nd pair LD and puck moving talent on their defense, Goligoski would be an incredibly attractive option as a cap throw in personally. Has he fallen off dramatically?.

He's still consistent as ever. Never misses any time and is a safe bet for 30-35 points. He was really solid defensively this year as well. I think he was 13th league-wide in blocked shots. The only reason he may be available is to free up budget for other needs, especially when he is a more of a "luxury" in Arizona where LD is already decently stocked with OEL and Chychrun. I think you could make the case that, added to the Penguins, Goligoski would be arguably your best D behind Letang.