Crosby’s 21 point in 12 game playoff

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  1. Ageless

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    How does this compare to great playoff runs back in the old days. Like Howe and Richard... when there was only two round?s

    21 points in 12 games 1.75 ppg
    Leading scorer at time of elimination
     
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    9 of these points were acquired during 3 games that could be classified as blowouts against a spectacular tin can, and another 3 were acquired in a 8-5 win.

    So I don't care much for it myself.
     
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    Great find. Very cool too see Crosby have similar production to Gretzky himself at the same age. Gretzky 22 in 11 at 28 years old vs Crosby 21 in 12 at 30
     
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    I can't remember and I'm too lazy to Google it, but it did seem more like Guentzel was driving the boat up until he got hurt in some way, that again, I do not remember and will not search.
     
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    Huh? Guentzel was doing what now?
     
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    You clearly did not watch the pens that run
     
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    Feel like comparing round 2 and 3 or 3 and 4 production to the 2 round era would be a better comparable ?

    Goals often goes down after the first round.
     
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    Didn't watch any of his playoff games since the 2008 and 2009 cup runs but last year he had an impressive stat like that's for sure.


    21 in 12 is Gretzky/Lemieux territory, too bad they didn't make another run to the final to give him a chance to crack 40 for a first time.
     
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    Is this really that historical? It happened last spring.

    He was very good, but the Flyers were veritably atrocious defensively and in terms of goaltending in that first round series as well. It's not surprising that they're terrible in goals against so far this season.
     
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    Perhaps I phrased it in a way that was too dismissive of Crosby, but up until the last 2 games, yeah, Guentzel was the man. (And perhaps he vanished of his own accord, and was healthy). Given how Round 1 ended, and the timeliness of his goals, I stand by saying good things about Guentzel.
     
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    I'm sure plenty of similar runs by players played against sub-par teams.
     
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    Crosby carried the mail, Guentzel was the recipient. They work well together because Jake is a hockey sponge and steals so much from so many players on that team, great student of the game...and he has the talent to make something of it from the attack line and in...but if not for Crosby, he is a nobody or a semi-nobody at best...
     
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    Doug Gilmour put up 16 points in 7 games against the Sharks in the second round of the 94 playoffs (24 in 13 through the first two rounds, 1.84 PPG). Then had 4 points in 5 games and was –4 in the next round against a stronger opponent (held off the scoresheet entirely in 3 out of 5 games).

    My point is not that Gilmour was a type player who beat up on suspect opponents (apparently he was injured against Van too, according to one poster here), but that one playoff round doesn't necessarily tell the whole story. It's a single (potentially lopsided) battle.

    Everytime Pens have won the Cup with Crosby he's been outscored by someone (someone on his own team, that is).
     
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    Such a good player, more proof the guy's one of the best to ever lace them up.
     
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    Tony is talking about Guentzel, of course ^
     
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    It's no '83 Middleton. 11-22-33 in 17
     
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    You got that right, MIDDLETON was on Fire!!!

    Don’t get me wrong Crosby had a good run too but Middleton Recorded 4 NHL Playoff Records in the 1983 Playoffs.
     
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    Adjusted for era the pace is just as good if not better.
     
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    Well the difference in their points per game isn't nearly as big as the difference in scoring levels though. Not sure how else to put it.
     
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    Barry Pedersons two playoffs between 1981 and 1983 were insane.

    50 points in 28 games

    That tumor they found in his shoulder cost him a Hall of Fame career.
     
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    What a career by this player so far............sometimes I think his playoffs can even get underrated at times. 185 career points. Other than the 5 big Oilers only Jagr, Sakic, Gilmour and Brett Hull have more points in the postseason and by the end of this year's playoffs you probably only have 4 of the Oilers (minus Coffey) that have more than him all-time. That's impressive.

    13 points in 6 games vs. Flyers
    8 points in 6 games vs. Caps

    Get past Washington (they had a 3rd period lead in game 5) and basically your biggest task is Tampa. Do that and I see Pittsburgh beating Vegas just like Washington did. So in conclusion, he was on his way to a 3rd straight Conn Smythe. No other Penguin other than Guentzel was close in production and if you thought it would be him that won the Smythe and not Crosby you probably should re-think that.
     
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    Nothing too special about it tbh. Couple of hot games..
     
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    I think I'm the poster you're referring to, and it is a bit off topic for this thread, but yes, Gilmour was injured:

    THE NHL / HELENE ELLIOTT : Gilmour: Weak Ankle, Strong Heart

    He was actually playing hurt in the San Jose series as well.
     

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