Prospect Info: Coyotes Top Prospects 2017 - #3

PhoPhan

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Fischer and I don't think it's close.

I voted for Fischer, but I think Joseph is pretty close. Fischer is much farther along in his development path, though, so he got the nod.
 

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Too early to really grade Joseph. Fischer is the clear Nr.3. And the way he played last season, he might even end up being a better player than Strome and Keller if only he can find a way to translate his scoring touch into the NHL. Of course, Keller got drafted a year later but in my view, right now, Fischer is clearly a much more complete player than the other two.
 
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I was thinking Fischer would get 100% of the votes but forgot about Wood. I really need to go to a Tucson game or two because as much as I know Fischer is going to be an NHL'r, I feel like Wood has an enormous upside. But because I haven't seen much footage or him play in person, I went with Fischer without much thought. Now that I'm thinking about it, Wood not only plays a tougher position, but he is also plays it on our most scarce handed side as well. He is our only RHD prospect worth a damn and has top line potential. I kind of wish I could change my vote.

Any of the Tucson fans have more input on Wood, his upside and where he is with development?
 

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Yeah Fischer seems like a given here. That being said, we have no idea what P.O.J. offers yet, might be interesting to revisit this poll in a couple years. As for now, Fischer.
 

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I was thinking Fischer would get 100% of the votes but forgot about Wood. I really need to go to a Tucson game or two because as much as I know Fischer is going to be an NHL'r, I feel like Wood has an enormous upside. But because I haven't seen much footage or him play in person, I went with Fischer without much thought. Now that I'm thinking about it, Wood not only plays a tougher position, but he is also plays it on our most scarce handed side as well. He is our only RHD prospect worth a damn and has top line potential. I kind of wish I could change my vote.

Wood needs to improve his skating, physicality, and find more consistency. I have him behind POJ and Merkley. People are getting a little too hyped about his size and some AHL production.
 

lanky

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"some" AHL production is the best indicator of NHL success.

I voted Fischer. Wood is next for me even though I'm a big POJ fan.
 

PhoPhan

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I'd also take Joseph and Merkley before Wood. Wood is a good powerplay contributor but the rest of his game still needs some fine tuning.
 

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Went with Fischer as well, since he has shown that he can play well at the NHL level. While I think he might be ready for full-time Coyotes ice-time, it may be next season before he's a "mainstay."

Of course the number of games on the Coyotes roster depends on if we add another RW before the season begins, but I think I'd be comfortable with him on the roster for the full season (still want an additional RW though).
 

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The amount of talent that we've removed from this list the past few years is astonishing. How good are we expecting Fischer to be? There is an enormous drop from Keller/Strome to Fischer.
 

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The amount of talent that we've removed from this list the past few years is astonishing. How good are we expecting Fischer to be? There is an enormous drop from Keller/Strome to Fischer.

It depends how you are defining "talent." From my perspective, I look at a roster as a whole rather than solely focusing on top two lines/pairings. It's hard to say where Fischer might end up for his career, but I currently see him as a solid 3rd liner. With additional experience and development, he might be able to make it to the 2nd line, but I don't see him ever being a 1st liner in his career.

Yes, our talent depth of solid scoring forwards may be slim, but that's because several pups are making the leap from prospect to NHL player. I mean Domi, Perlini, Dvorak, Duclair, Crouse, and (to an extent) even Rieder aren't too removed from being "prospects." Of course we didn't draft Duclair, Crouse, or Rieder, but only one of them would be considered an "talented" offensive player.
 

Matias Maccete

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It depends how you are defining "talent." From my perspective, I look at a roster as a whole rather than solely focusing on top two lines/pairings. It's hard to say where Fischer might end up for his career, but I currently see him as a solid 3rd liner. With additional experience and development, he might be able to make it to the 2nd line, but I don't see him ever being a 1st liner in his career.

Yes, our talent depth of solid scoring forwards may be slim, but that's because several pups are making the leap from prospect to NHL player. I mean Domi, Perlini, Dvorak, Duclair, Crouse, and (to an extent) even Rieder aren't too removed from being "prospects." Of course we didn't draft Duclair, Crouse, or Rieder, but only one of them would be considered an "talented" offensive player.

I don't know, I'm not sure he's ever going to be a 1st liner based purely on his scoring, but he's a big physical presence, and has enough speed, hands, and finishing ability to not be out of place on a scoring line. I think while that kind of player may not be a traditional 1st liner, there's plenty of room for someone like that on a top line. Pairing him with Strome and one of maybe Domi or Keller long term could be filthy, that skill and vision with Fischer crashing the net like a madman, that would be a sight to see.
 

Dr VinnyBoombatz

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Fischer just put up 1 of the top 10 seasons in the AHL at his age ever. I don't think that we can say that he's not going to be a top line player yet.

No reason why he couldn't be. He puts the puck in the net, looks to be determined on the forecheck and has a really good shot.

With Keller or Strome feeding him pucks, I can see Fischer putting up monster numbers.

Plus, he has the distinct advantage to being our only RH winger on the club.
 

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In terms of raw potential, I nearly went with P-O Joseph, but in terms of likelihood of being a productive NHLer Fischer has a HUGE lead on everyone else on this list.
 

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"some" AHL production is the best indicator of NHL success.

Not really, no. Not unless you were equally impressed by Rundblad and Gormley's AHL numbers. You also can't fault a player for not playing a league he can't be in. POJ belongs well above Wood, given the tools at his age. He's simply the better prospect. Wood is probably the best of the rest/B tier guys due to his track record so far. Even so, Dineen and Capobianco aren't junk either and they could very well end up better than Wood.

In terms of raw potential, I nearly went with P-O Joseph, but in terms of likelihood of being a productive NHLer Fischer has a HUGE lead on everyone else on this list.

"best prospect" roughly translates into "most valued by other GMs." Fischer would be an instant roster player for most teams and fills a huge need as well, being a big RHS. He has a clear advantage over POJ in terms of time horizon. But in two or three years, it could be POJ that is valued more by miles.
 

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Not really, no. Not unless you were equally impressed by Rundblad and Gormley's AHL numbers. You also can't fault a player for not playing a league he can't be in. POJ belongs well above Wood, given the tools at his age. He's simply the better prospect. Wood is probably the best of the rest/B tier guys due to his track record so far. Even so, Dineen and Capobianco aren't junk either and they could very well end up better than Wood.



"best prospect" roughly translates into "most valued by other GMs." Fischer would be an instant roster player for most teams and fills a huge need as well, being a big RHS. He has a clear advantage over POJ in terms of time horizon. But in two or three years, it could be POJ that is valued more by miles.

Good post. I think you may be undervaluing Wood, but this season should help indicate if he is merely a PP specialist or if he can start putting it all together. It will also help that he will be playing with other prospects like Capobianco to see exactly where he compares to our other mid-ranged defensive prospects. Dineen still has another year in Junior right?
 

Jakey53

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Not really, no. Not unless you were equally impressed by Rundblad and Gormley's AHL numbers. You also can't fault a player for not playing a league he can't be in. POJ belongs well above Wood, given the tools at his age. He's simply the better prospect. Wood is probably the best of the rest/B tier guys due to his track record so far. Even so, Dineen and Capobianco aren't junk either and they could very well end up better than Wood.



"best prospect" roughly translates into "most valued by other GMs." Fischer would be an instant roster player for most teams and fills a huge need as well, being a big RHS. He has a clear advantage over POJ in terms of time horizon. But in two or three years, it could be POJ that is valued more by miles.

I agree. The NHL is a huge step up from the AHL.
 

SniperHF

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The amount of talent that we've removed from this list the past few years is astonishing. .

People on last years top 15 who are gone or promoted:
Dvorak
Chychrun
DeAngelo
Crouse
Perlini
Samuelsson
Dauphin

About half the list.


I figured Fischer would win this one but didn't think it would be this much a blowout :laugh:

Anywho I'm gonna skip ahead to #4 since this is done.
 

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