News Article: COVID 19 POSITIVITY THREAD: Useful links, hopeful news etc

[Whileee]

There is a person I know that is successful (I really enjoy her company) but told me to with a strait face that Bill Gates has the patent on COVID and that's why its all happening.

Maybe you should ask her why she thinks Gates is spending hundreds of millions of dollars of his own money to combat COVID-19 in Africa and Asia through the Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation. Why would he try to mitigate the epidemic?

I think many people have always had psychological issues and paranoia, but they kept that to themselves. Now, with social media people find others with the same psychopathy and paranoia and it amplifies their beliefs and emboldens them to share them publicly.

 

[Howard Chuck]

The problem with that is they don't know where the spread is occurring. Earlier in the year they successfully used a targeted approach in Brandon because they saw the numbers were all coming from large gatherings. In Winnipeg there is so much community transmission of unknown origin so to keep things under control they feel they have to close the good with the bad.

That makes sense. For some reason I thought they had a better idea of where the spread was coming from.

 

[Howard Chuck]

There is a person I know that is successful (I really enjoy her company) but told me to with a strait face that Bill Gates has the patent on COVID and that's why its all happening.

Successful or smart doesn’t matter much. Sometimes there just isn’t any common sense. I sometimes have different beliefs but I think they are all based on common sense.

 

[Howard Chuck]

Maybe you should ask her why she thinks Gates is spending hundreds of millions of dollars of his own money to combat COVID-19 in Africa and Asia through the Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation. Why would he try to mitigate the epidemic?

I think many people have always had psychological issues and paranoia, but they kept that to themselves. Now, with social media people find others with the same psychopathy and paranoia and it amplifies their beliefs and emboldens them to share them publicly.

Absolutely, you can add many different topics to this phenomenon. Social media has made it easy to find tailor made echo chambers.

sorry off topic

 

[grieves]

I feel obligated to say that I also feel good about trusting this Pfizer vaccine as part of operation warp speed. I would like to know more about it, especially if it is a typical vaccine or if it actually alters your RNA, and I will be looking into it as my limitations permit, just to be on the safe side.

I would also like to say that if you are not a tinfoil hat person with the amount of information available, then you just aren't paying attention. Where there is smoke, there is usually fire (not always of course), which we tend to selectively forget at times.

 

[Jack722]

Maybe you should ask her why she thinks Gates is spending hundreds of millions of dollars of his own money to combat COVID-19 in Africa and Asia through the Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation. Why would he try to mitigate the epidemic?

I think many people have always had psychological issues and paranoia, but they kept that to themselves. Now, with social media people find others with the same psychopathy and paranoia and it amplifies their beliefs and emboldens them to share them publicly.

Yeah. Not only that but advertising/social media algorithms couldn't be better designed for bringing these people together and pushing them towards more and more extreme beliefs.

 

[Duke749]

Maybe you should ask her why she thinks Gates is spending hundreds of millions of dollars of his own money to combat COVID-19 in Africa and Asia through the Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation. Why would he try to mitigate the epidemic?

I think many people have always had psychological issues and paranoia, but they kept that to themselves. Now, with social media people find others with the same psychopathy and paranoia and it amplifies their beliefs and emboldens them to share them publicly.

Was gonna comment something else on the bolded but thought about it some more and would rather ask if you could elaborate on this?

 

[Whileee]

Was gonna comment something else on the bolded but thought about it some more and would rather ask if you could elaborate on this?

Not much more to say. Just observing that people who are prone to conspiracy theories now connect to others that amplify them, rather than having them moderated by interactions with people not prone to paranoia / suspicion. It's a modern form of social contagion, with people choosing to be with others that share the same psychological characteristics and social views, often at the extreme ends of the spectrum.

 

[10Ducky10]

Over 340,000 new cases in the last two days in the US.
Illinois had well over 15,000 cases today.
"In an attempt to alleviate staffing concerns, North Dakota has taken the extraordinary step of allowing health-care workers with asymptomatic cases of COVID-19 to continue working in hospitals’ COVID-19 units and at nursing homes."

something something hell in a handbasket...

 

[robertocarlos]

If the NHL revenues hit $5 billion this year the players get back their 20% and maybe some extra money on top.

 

[Eyeseeing]

Not much more to say. Just observing that people who are prone to conspiracy theories now connect to others that amplify them, rather than having them moderated by interactions with people not prone to paranoia / suspicion. It's a modern form of social contagion, with people choosing to be with others that share the same psychological characteristics and social views, often at the extreme ends of the spectrum.

No different than those taking a different view.
Just an observation.
Birds of a feather and all that.

 

[ps241]

Maybe you should ask her why she thinks Gates is spending hundreds of millions of dollars of his own money to combat COVID-19 in Africa and Asia through the Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation. Why would he try to mitigate the epidemic?

I think many people have always had psychological issues and paranoia, but they kept that to themselves. Now, with social media people find others with the same psychopathy and paranoia and it amplifies their beliefs and emboldens them to share them publicly.

I would have asked her but then I thought.......from the starting point of her reality to my world view what are the chances of getting this convo off the ground?

Then I opened a beer and changed the subject.

 

[buggs]

There is a person I know that is successful (I really enjoy her company) but told me to with a strait face that Bill Gates has the patent on COVID and that's why its all happening.

May I present you with "Gates is evil" theorem? Altruistic billionaire plans to kill billions through release of biological agent

 

[nobody imp0rtant]

No different than those taking a different view.
Just an observation.
Birds of a feather and all that.

Exactly. I come to this forum to find people that share my belief that Chevy and Maurice should be fired immediately, and lo and behold... they're here! Hallelujah!

 

[nobody imp0rtant]

May I present you with "Gates is evil" theorem? Altruistic billionaire plans to kill billions through release of biological agent

Good one. You got me.

 

[ps241]

May I present you with "Gates is evil" theorem? Altruistic billionaire plans to kill billions through release of biological agent

Thanks Buggs...........it’s all coming together!

 

[scelaton]

I feel obligated to say that I also feel good about trusting this Pfizer vaccine as part of operation warp speed. I would like to know more about it, especially if it is a typical vaccine or if it actually alters your RNA, and I will be looking into it as my limitations permit, just to be on the safe side.

I would also like to say that if you are not a tinfoil hat person with the amount of information available, then you just aren't paying attention. Where there is smoke, there is usually fire (not always of course), which we tend to selectively forget at times.

It does not alter your RNA or DNA. The 'm' in mRNA stands for 'messenger'. So the genetically-engineered mRNA vaccine sends a message to a person's cells to begin producing a protein that mimics the spike protein on the COVID virus. That triggers an antibody response to any similar spike protein, including the one on COVID-19. It's a platform that has never been used for vaccines before but, if it works, has broad application, including cancer research (which is where I believe it began).

 

[jetsforever]

Not sure if "positive" coronavirus topics is the best way to phrase it

 

[Whileee]

No different than those taking a different view.
Just an observation.
Birds of a feather and all that.

Sure, but when one view is just plain bonkers...

 

[Royale With Cheese]

Has anyone here had Covid?

 

[PhilJets]

Wearing of facemask and plus washing of hands frequently is the best.
And having a good immune system is a big help.

 

[Howard Chuck]

Not much more to say. Just observing that people who are prone to conspiracy theories now connect to others that amplify them, rather than having them moderated by interactions with people not prone to paranoia / suspicion. It's a modern form of social contagion, with people choosing to be with others that share the same psychological characteristics and social views, often at the extreme ends of the spectrum.

Yup. Rather than try to see the views of others and maybe learn something new.

 

[Howard Chuck]

I would have asked her but then I thought.......from the starting point of her reality to my world view what are the chances of getting this convo off the ground?

Then I opened a beer and changed the subject.

You just described most of my weekend encounters!

 

[Mud Turtle]

After locking down the first time.
We locked down got to 1 case.
Government asked people to play nice the majority did.
What else can they do?
Locking down again and again won’t work.
This virus is like whack a mole.
Can’t keep everything shuttered forever.
This virus doesn’t look like it will be controlled by anyone or anything.

Agree. Masking and social distancing went way down after the first wave. And covid numbers remained low for quite some time. In fact, We were the envy of many jurisdictions.
But it finally came back. Like it has in many places, restrictions or not.
Now we have some pretty heavy restrictions and the virus continues to rage and is only increasing.
It’s an inconvenient truth that there is an aspect of randomness across the globe with this virus.
It makes people nervous to think that we’re sometimes out of control of things, so we try everything to convince ourselves that we are. But in reality, we can’t always do that.

 

[Mud Turtle]

As soon as this big wave was obvious (about 1 month ago), they could have shut it down with a brief / sharp intervention.

Yes they could have. But what happens when we open back up after that “brief” intervention? Does the virus just disappear, never to return?
We’ve learned that virus don’t do that. This one is no different.
So to be intellectually honest, the debate should really be either we shut it all down until a safe vaccine is available, or keep the economy wide open and hope the damage done by the virus is less than the emotional and economic damage ensuing from a full shutdown.