You think we have been ahead here?...If you need to get hit in the face before acting......you'll always be 2 steps behind.
You think we have been ahead here?...If you need to get hit in the face before acting......you'll always be 2 steps behind.
We already are two steps behind. The measures we have aren't working; the measures we need aren't being done. The biggest spreaders are schools and home gatherings. The former won't be closed, the latter is not being enforced strongly enough.If you need to get hit in the face before acting......you'll always be 2 steps behind.
We already are two steps behind. The measures we have aren't working; the measures we need aren't being done. The biggest spreaders are schools and home gatherings. The former won't be closed, the latter is not being enforced strongly enough.
Are campuses monitoring dorms for parties? If not, what the hell are they waiting for?
Create a snitch-line to alert police to home gatherings. One or two visitors is one thing; a party is a whole other thing. There were multiple Halloween parties last weekend; paying money for legit tips might've stopped them.
Somebody visiting a sibling or a parent is one thing. Having a party is another and has absolutely no justification or explanation save for idiocy and selfishness. @Kriss E mentioned boozing in Saudi Arabia as an example. I don't agree with that at all. People drinking alcohol in Saudi Arabia aren't putting others life at risk (at least health-wise) by doing it. They're just subverting an oppressive regime. Folks partying are essentially saying 'f*** everybody else, someone's life isn't worth my not partying' whether they realize it or not. They're buttholes. Full stop.
It's not about being smart it's about being realistic, and knowing your demographic.We would need only one measure if we would be smart, only one:
Limiting our social contact/interaction to the bare minimum.
Not matter what is open or not...no matter what are the measures in place.
We're pretty screwed until people start at least trying to accept the rules put in place.
It is absurd how many people are complaining the measures do not work but still do not respect any of the regulations in place.
The amount of people that I know that are breaking protocol is quite sad. It is more sad considering most are breaking protocol for entertainment purposes, where there are others not seeing there families.
Maybe the measures work, maybe they do not but they have to first be respected before we can see.
Stay safe everyone
True.
Look at what 2 cases from the UK made these guys do. Here comes the Commodore. Note that she says "eliminate".
Then you have the hard way i.e. welding buildings shut to force quarantine, case in point China.
We just don't care to try enough. We have to live with that, whatever it has for us in store over the next months/years.
Stay safe indeed.
Yes well we are different than New Zealand, who's a little Island, and pointing to what they did is a bit pointless right now.
It was never going to happen here with our direct access to USA and vice versa.
But I do agree our response wasn't really well organized. Just them calling the masks useless was not surprisingly going to blowback in their faces.
We just wasted 6 weeks on rather pointless measures too now. It's not really about caring to try, there just needs to be a logic behind the decision and a way to communicate them.
The government here just repeats the same things over and over again, they point the finger at the population throwing them a little thumbs up from time to time, and they're not being transparent, it's not surprising a lot have tuned them out.
You can't go see your family but the kids can be surrounded by 30 other children in a classroom for hours on end. Can't go for a glass of wine in the backyard of my friends but we can hold hands at the shopping mall for hours. Don't see anybody, but go work in a packed factory.
It's not really surprising people aren't listening to everything.
It's not about being smart it's about being realistic, and knowing your demographic.
You also need to factor in the economy. The longer this goes on the less businesses can sustain closures.
Limiting social contact to a bare minimum, ie, just groceries, drug store, doctor appointments, and the likes, is not realistic. Even less so if everything is open and a bunch of your friends/families are gathering for dinners once in a while, never getting sick, and you're all alone at home boring yourself to death.
We're pretty screwed until people start at least trying to accept the rules put in place.
It is absurd how many people are complaining the measures do not work but still do not respect any of the regulations in place.
The amount of people that I know that are breaking protocol is quite sad. It is more sad considering most are breaking protocol for entertainment purposes, where there are others not seeing there families.
Maybe the measures work, maybe they do not but they have to first be respected before we can see.
Stay safe everyone
I'm not disputing what kind of continent we live on, simply saying that NZ (Aussies too) deployed the military to enforce lockdowns. No in betweens. No half measures. And they are as modern a country as almost anybody out there. We OTOH clearly need a vaccine to get back to "normal". China is not some tiny island either. Different way of life and tolerance from citizens, I know.
@LyricalLyricist what symptoms did you have?
Geez... really sorry you're going through this. As long as your breathing isn't laboured you'll probably be fine, but don't wait around if symptoms get worse.When I got tested or after?
When I got tested it was precautionary. I was in contact with someone who tested positive and I was feeling great. Now? Not so much.
Sore throat, Fever, Muscle Pain, dry cough, headaches, extreme fatigue, extreme chest pain/pressure, loss of appetite, nausea.
It really fluctuates. I have had a fever on and off for 7 days. Today I couldn't move. I've lost about 8-9 lbs in 7 days from inability to eat.
I feel horrible. It's 11 PM and this is the first time I got out of my bed for more than 5 minutes.
I'm wondering if the smartest measure to reduce cases could be to open restaurants. It's probably a safer environment than the physically closer, poorly ventilated homes where people are currently socializing. People refuse to stop gathering and the government won't invade their homes, so why not give them the option of a better-ventilated, distance-controlled restaurant instead of their living room? Maximum tables of four, plus the same limits as before -- masks worn except at your table, space between tables, no mingling between parties.
I legit kinda forgot we were waiting on a vaccine for a moment there
like my brain just accepted that this is life now
That's true, dining out is more expensive than DIY and fewer people are comfortable going. But then... if there are fewer people, isn't that an even better reason to open restaurants? Volume of business will probably be low -- which, ironically, makes it a safer environment -- but at least allow owners to operate and try to make a living, which they're currently barred from doing.That is indeed compelling for people whose budget lets them afford it in these tricky times. I think a lot of people have reverted to home made solutions to save money - and may be turned off by COVID surcharges at the restaurant or things along these lines. A large portion is also happy to plan take-out nights as well... I'm afraid it'll take time for dining-in to get a LOT of love back from the old days. Wow, the 'old days'... I mean last year.
When I got tested or after?
When I got tested it was precautionary. I was in contact with someone who tested positive and I was feeling great. Now? Not so much.
Sore throat, Fever, Muscle Pain, dry cough, headaches, extreme fatigue, extreme chest pain/pressure, loss of appetite, nausea.
It really fluctuates. I have had a fever on and off for 7 days. Today I couldn't move. I've lost about 8-9 lbs in 7 days from inability to eat.
I feel horrible. It's 11 PM and this is the first time I got out of my bed for more than 5 minutes.