... and let 'em in.
A full lockdown with enforced measures would have fixed the issue with the borders. You can't spread imported cases if you aren't leaving your house unless it's essential.
Not "Home Depot to buy plants" essential, or "Wal Mart to browse for new sheets" essential. Like, really actually essential.
... and let 'em in.
Not necessarily. They did curfews in the UAE and Saudi Arabia, pretty early on as well, and they still got a lot of cases.
Again, you seem to think most of our cases come from people going shopping for unessentials. This is purely a fabrication of your mind.
I don't care because Germany has already started reopening and yesterday they were around 650 cases...in Canada we were at 872. So whether or not Germany works its way down to 50 daily cases at some point is pretty irrelevant to the discussion.
Point is, most places, if not all, that have been hit hard don't wait until they're anywhere between 0-50 daily cases to reopen.
The numbers will keep dropping, there are periods where it will probably fluctuate back up, and then down, until eventually, hopefully, there are no more cases.
Right, and I'm all for it, but until then...what exactly are you suggesting? For people to stay in or to reopen?
I don't really get your point here...shall we go back in time?? You want to keep crying and bitching about the terrible response from the government indefinitely?
I've argued for mask from the very beginning, my GF sent me some from HK right away. I had N95 masks at home before nurses in hospitals it seems. Our government dropped the ball on many fronts.
We agree, so not sure what you're going on about.
So ya...I assume that's a handful of cases. I was pointing out that no, there aren't ''plenty'' of countries that were hit as bad as us and waited for their cases back down to ''almost zero'' to reopen.
Nothing I said goes against test-trace-isolate...so again...not sure what you're on about.
Not necessarily. They did curfews in the UAE and Saudi Arabia, pretty early on as well, and they still got a lot of cases.
Again, you seem to think most of our cases come from people going shopping for unessentials. This is purely a fabrication of your mind.
With all the data coming out showing the most serious cases and deaths mostly affect 80+ year old people with preexisting conditions, I don't understand the level of hysteria still persisting around this.
Take care of the elderly, follow current hygiene guidelines when dealing with them until this thing subsides by whichever means it does.
With all the data coming out showing the most serious cases and deaths mostly affect 80+ year old people with preexisting conditions, I don't understand the level of hysteria still persisting around this.
Take care of the elderly, follow current hygiene guidelines when dealing with them until this thing subsides by whichever means it does.
Too bad there is no suspense about who is going to win the league. Tons of teams are fighting for CL/EL spots though.The Premier League will start on June 17th with a postponed game of Manchester City and Arsenal, then the week after it will be a full round of games. They expect to be done in early August.
Thanks. We have not debated imminent food shortages in this thread yet....
Studies show that Pistachio ice cream produces best results.Ice cream is my vaccine.
Too bad there is no suspense about who is going to win the league. Tons of teams are fighting for CL/EL spots though.
Those ARE government findings. If you bothered to read my post in the previous thread you would know this, but you prefer hysteria and fear mongering.Ah well, you should definitely send your findings to the governments in Canada, the USA and Europe, as well as public health bodies around the globe. They will be very interested in learning that they have nothing to worry about.
Contagious, yes. Deadly? Depends on your health conditions prior to contracting it.Two points:
1) It is much more contagious that any virus out there. It is basically as contagious as the flu but because NO HUMAN has any immunity to this (except the ones that have had it), it makes it much more contagious and an Ro over 2. The flu is yearly less contagious Ro around 1-1.5 because humans have some immunity to some strains and there is a yearly vaccine for it.
2) Also, it is 5 to 8 more deadly than the seasonal flu (0.5 to 0.8% IFR compared to 0.1%).
To conclude:
With no containment measures, this virus will infect much more than the flu at a death rate 5 to 8 times higher. The result will be far worse than a lot of flu pandemics.
EPL is my favorite national league but I do not follow any specific team. I want to see drama, so I pick matches where teams are fighting for standings or are big rivals. English games have the best atmosphere, it will not be the same without fans in the stands. I am looking forward to watching remaining CL games - biggest teams, biggest players, biggest drama... I suspect they will restart some time in July if all goes well with national championships.I am fine with that since I am a LFC fan. Yes about teh CL/EL spots, that will be the real interesting thing plus the fight for staying in the the Premier League. I hope Leeds go up from the Championship.