I mean I guess it's good that we're using what we're getting, I think that's an issue in some states.Look at the Tennessee vaccine availability by county. Horrible, either limited or not available in every county.
Sure they made that decision, but when a company is punished for offering too good of coverage at lower than expected rates your plan still sucks.
No one gives a damn about the millions of others when it makes their own situation worse.
I mean I guess it's good that we're using what we're getting, I think that's an issue in some states.
Living here I can’t even begin to understand why California has been so consistently bad at this. There are pockets of whackos who made this all about politics (when a virus could care less about that) and between their protests and the BLM protests we had huge crowds that didn’t observe mask discipline. Forget social distancing. Now seeing the state is lagging in vaccine delivery. Something like only 45% of what we have received are in people’s arms at this point. I know there is going to be some innovation that gives this a turbo boost for delivery (way too many brilliant engineers in this state to not come up with something), but California is not a model.View attachment 388430
Here's a map showing how the spread is going. Looks like the entire country is finally doing better, even California, who has been mostly terrible throughout. Funny they have the tightest restrictions but the worst outcomes.
I mean they did this way ahead of schedule. Could be worse there could be given 1 pound of rice to feed 1000 people only to see only 8 oz. being usedIf you are given one pound of rice to feed 1000 people saying it's good that all is being used isn't much comfort.
Apparently, see California.I figured that you would respond with that! Either way many would starve.
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Here's a map showing how the spread is going. Looks like the entire country is finally doing better, even California, who has been mostly terrible throughout. Funny they have the tightest restrictions but the worst outcomes.
Bit of an assumption there. Didn't say I was Christian.No one cares about your religious beliefs
Then why make the assumption anyone else is?Bit of an assumption there. Didn't say I was Christian.
Officials aren’t concerned that the vaccine is having adverse effects on a large number of recipients. Instead, they are pushing for the study in order to ensure the federal government has a more complete picture of mortality in the age of the COVID-19 pandemic. The goal is to gather more data about the vaccine, its efficacy, and what happened to the recipients after they got the jab.
It’s an especially pressing issue, given the vulnerable and aging populations receiving the vaccine. According to the CDC, about 3 percent of 75-year-olds die within their next year of life. With millions of people receiving the vaccine, odds are some will die within a matter of weeks or months, for reasons that may or may not have anything to do with COVID-19. It’s also expected that some individuals who receive it will die in between the first and the second dose or after the regiment is completed, officials said, especially if they have a pre-existing illness that is advanced.
Where did you get your numbers for vaccinated people?
How many Tennesseans have been vaccinated so far?
Also, from the article you posted. They're not saying the vaccine is causing the people to die, they're saying at people in the 75+ age range have a higher rate of death within a year.
- A total of 939,650 vaccines were distributed to Tennessee as of Jan. 22, according to data from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention.
- A total of 510,050 of those vaccines were administered.
- Among those, 385,682 were first doses and 123,116 were second doses.
Thats the advantage of being retired you get to read ALOT. But it is a curse too you have too much time to moll over hockey as well.Thanks, I missed that first paragraph. And yes, it is hard to read that many articles, when you know, I'm supposed to be working, I scheme through most of it.
Baseball starts in 12 days, opening day is now 33 days out. My free time with everything is coming to an end.Thats the advantage of being retired you get to read ALOT. But it is a curse too you have too much time to moll over hockey as well.
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Here's a map showing how the spread is going. Looks like the entire country is finally doing better, even California, who has been mostly terrible throughout. Funny they have the tightest restrictions but the worst outcomes.
Living here I can’t even begin to understand why California has been so consistently bad at this. There are pockets of whackos who made this all about politics (when a virus could care less about that) and between their protests and the BLM protests we had huge crowds that didn’t observe mask discipline. Forget social distancing. Now seeing the state is lagging in vaccine delivery. Something like only 45% of what we have received are in people’s arms at this point. I know there is going to be some innovation that gives this a turbo boost for delivery (way too many brilliant engineers in this state to not come up with something), but California is not a model.
I know it is difficult to read an entire article so here is the section I refer to.
In an Advisory Committee on Immunization Practices (ACIP) meeting Wednesday, officials from the CDC’s COVID-19 Vaccine Safety Task Force presented preliminary data they have gathered through the VAERS system. (ACIP is a group of medical and public health experts that provides recommendations and public health guidance on the safe use of vaccines).
Slides posted on the CDC’s website shows the federal government has collected a total of more than 9,000 reports through the VAERS system since the COVID-19 vaccine rollout began—an incredibly small percentage of total vaccinations administered. Many of the reports indicate that individuals who have received the vaccine have experienced symptoms like dizziness, nausea, fatigue and chills. The data also shows that VAERS has collected 196 reports of death, though the slides note that the deaths reported to VAERS are not necessarily related to vaccination.
The VAERS system is the data base that the president is using to make decisions. Not my opinion it was confirmed twice this week in the Whitehouse press briefing by Jen Paski. As stated in the quote it is not numbers of total vaccines distributed and administered it is a subset used by the Vaccine Safty Task Force in determining risk of the vaccine. And the point is even though preliminary the death rate due to covid is about the same in this 9,000 subject subset. Why is this important? With 51% of Americans still refusing to take the vaccine it supports there decision. It also impacts the question of herd immunity, other articles report that 60 to 75% of the population would need to be immune to achieve heard immunity and loosen up the draconian policies the government has put in place for almost a year now. The articles also imply that even though one is vaccinated it does not prevent them from being a carrier and while mask usage does not hurt it does not prevent spread significantly. Just a layman note there has been no announcement that once someone is vaccinated they could discontinue face coverings. Another reason to cause pause. Health workers refusing vaccine is new growing US problem | TheHill as of two weeks ago 40% of healthcare workers are refusing vaccination.
Now with all of that the question is have we as a society overreacted to this virus? And to the point of NHL protocols are they too stringent to allow completion of a 56 game season under the time constraints? And most important with a 98% survival rate of the inital virus have we done more harm allowing the virus to mutate without the majority of the population having been exposed and developing some immunity. One thing that has been studied was the mutating of Eboli which has become more and more deadly as the strain evolves. One thing is sure the people are tired of seclusion and disruption of life with no measurable gains in preventing the spread. over 5000 died yesterday with the incubation period less than the amount of time the new administration has been in office. Nothing the political critters have done has had much impact on the virus just the election. Obama and Biden were blamed for there non reaction to the swine flu outbreak in 2009 by political opponents but in hindsight it may have been the right move rather than to isolate people like we are now and just delay infection. Yes people died and people will continue to die while this runs its course. But then again " But while the number of people who died from COVID-19 in the last year is shocking, TB kills about the same number of people — about 1.5-2 million — each year, and has done so for many decades. In fact, it’s estimated that over the last 200 years, more than 1 billion people have died from TB, far more than from any other infectious disease." Roughly the same number of Covid deaths but not near the attention. In 2017 10 million people were infected by TB and 1.3 million died from it, simple math 13% died from TB that year and Covid has killed 2.1% of those infected.
I've seen this tuberculosis talking point before and I don't get it. We only have 10,000 cases and 542 deaths per year from tuberculosis in the US each year. We've cleared those numbers from Covid basically every day since March in the US. It shouldn't be particularly surprising that we don't pay as much attention to a disease that isn't a threat to us. It's also not easily communicable like Covid so you're far less likely to catch it from some random person.
The raw numbers make it look like Cali is doing the worse in the country, but that doesn't account for them being the most populous state in the country. According to Worldometers they are 24th in total cases per 1 million pop and 33rd in deaths per 1 million pop.