Could there be co-winners of the Calder this year??

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  1. HabLover

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    Who thinks naming Ovechkin and Crosby as co-winners of the Calder this year would be a good idea?

    If you look at it, Ovechkin is the first rookie in a long time to score 50 goals, while Crosby could be the first player in a long, long time and only the second player EVER to score 100pts as an 18 yr old and he should hit 40 goals this year. He is already the youngest ever to 90pts.
     
  2. Abyss

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    I don't think they should give it to both...give it to one or the other. I'd give it to AO myself, just because breakin the 50 goal mark as a rookie is darn impressive, especially with the teamates he is doing it with.
     
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    Agreed
     
  4. ever since the focus has been put on ovechkin hes struggled while crosby has been on fire

    it will be interesting to say the least
     
  5. DaveyCrockett

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    Unless it is a statistical award and there is a tie, it should only go to one player. This isn't house league where everyone gets a trophy.
     
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    This will be difficult. Sid and Alex are really puting up some high numbers. And defencive players like Phaneuf and Lundqvist would be winners any other year.

    Easy thing to do would be to say Sid and Alex split the Calder and Phan and Lund both becomes runners up and every one will be happy...? But that aint really the way to do it. My vote would probably go to Alex but the others are so close behind it is almost impossible IMHO.


    What would a team with Lundqvist in goal, Phaneuf as the #1 defenceman and Sidney as main center with Alexander as key winger look like?
     
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    The NHL All-Rookie Team? :dunno: :dunno:
     
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    LOL good answer :)
     
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    No giving awards to both. The trophy is for the BEST rookie. There aren't two best in a given year, unless you want to give out two Stanley Cups just because you would hate to leave the other team out.
     
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    has there been co-winners of major awards before?
     
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    Say you have those four one the all rookie team:

    Ovechkin - Crosby - ???????
    Phaneuf - ???????
    Lundqvist

    Who would you have as the other forward and other defenseman?

    I'm thinking Meszaros and then Boyes/Svatos/Prucha

    Who would you go for?
     
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    Meszaros and Svatos
     
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    The Richard award is the only award I can see being shared by multiple winners.
     
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    If Sid does catch Ovechkin, I still think Ovechkin should get. Due too the fact he's scored more goals.
     
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    Meszaros and Steen

    Ovechkin - Crosby - Steen
    Phaneuf - Meszaros
    Lundqvist
     
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    Replace Steen with Svatos
     
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    don't forget Ovechkin is 2 years older than Crosby as well, which is alot in development time, also Ovechkin played in a mans league last year. Both are extremley talent superstars right now. IT will be scary to see them 4 to 5 years from now. I don't think it is clear cut to just give it to Ovechkin like some people say. just because Crosby has Leclair and Recchi doent' mean anything, they are both a little over their prime now.
     
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    This has to be the best rookie class EVER.

    Ovechkin, Crosby, Phaneuf, Vanek, Meszaros, Boyes, Jokinen, Lehtonen, Fleury, Lundqvist, Niittymaki, Toivonen, etc.

    That is a sick sick class. Of course, I guess it is really the class from two seasons combined, but still. :)
     
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    Don't forget Miller, Parise, Svatos, Steen, Carter, Getzlaf.....
     
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    Don't forget guys like Miller and Parise...
     
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    And the Jennings.
     
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    He's moved into third in league scoring .He's hardly struggled,it's just that Sid has been phenomenal of late.

    50 goals and third in scoring is pretty hard to argue with so I have no problems if AO gets the Calder but Sid is the better player right now imo and definetly the one to lay claim as the next great hockey player(with AO as his main rival).There is no denying now that the early situation in Pittsburgh was a huge detriment to Sid.The kid is a creative thinking player that relies on anticipation and chemistry and that couldn't happen with forty different line changes for most of the year and also having to play with veterans that arrogantly thought they had something to teach him.He's now on a line with 2 guys that cleared waivers in the last 4 months and he's scoring 2 points a game.

    So to summarize AO had a better year(full) and Sid is the better player.If the press considers the obstacles Sidney had to overcome and how well he finished and how good he made Armstrong and Hilbert than maybe he's got a shot.But regardles congrats to both and other rookies as well.
     
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    I have never participate in any of these Ovechkin v. Crosby threads...But this season there are really two BEST rookies.

    I mean what Crosby is doing as an 18 year old is damn incredible, he'll most likely be the youngest ever to score 100 points. I didn't believe it was possible at the being of the season

    Ovechkin is superstar already with a really nice well rounded game and a 50 goal -100 point rookie campaing is unbelievable especially when you look at that Washington team.

    If I had a vote I wouldn't know who to give it to!!!! Being a Devil fan I got to see these guys quite a bit this year.....These guys are both unbelievable talents.

    I guess Ovechkin has been the better overall player and has a much more well rounded game....But Crosby is 18! I don't know....I do know this is good for the NHL no matter how you slice it.
     
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    I thought you didn't like Ovechkin over Crosby
     
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    I couldn't disagree more.AO is more physical but Sidney is at least as good defensively if not better and is an incredible playmaker.They are very different type of players so very hard to compare but Crosby is lacking very little and is very well rounded for the team game of hockey.
     

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