could anyone give me the lowdown on why the wings gave up on petr mrasek?

BinCookin

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Many Reasons:

1) He was paid 4Mil. That is bonafide starter's money, and he didn't earn it.

2) He is great some nights, bad on others. Aka Inconsistent (like all goalies). However his inconsistency goes by 10 game stretches and not 1 game stretches... so you remember the bad times for a while.

3) He has a bit of an attitude and rubs people the wrong way sometimes.

4) Detroit has another acceptable goaltender in Howard. (not as young, but he is more consistent).

He was given a lot of starts in Detroit, and main reason people are upset he is gone is his age... not his play.
 

ArGarBarGar

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Because Howard and loyalty.
Mrazek failed to step up when give the reigns for an extended period of time. We can look to his 7 game series in 2015 or stretches where he was lights out, but he never had a single season where he could take over as the starter without some kind of slump.

He was an inconsistent goaltender who constantly lost his net, and was able to make up for it with his athleticism, but not enough to be a reliable starter over the course of an 82 game season.
 

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he was standing on head last night against the jets....

why the wings let this guy go...i don't understand...

could someone clue me on this?
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Mrazek will have those kind of games. For the most part he is very mediocre.
 

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Mrazeks positioning drove me crazy, in particular the angles he gives up to shooters. Even worse he made zero effort to change or improve it. I don’t miss him at all.
 

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he was standing on head last night against the jets....

why the wings let this guy go...i don't understand...

could someone clue me on this?

He is a bad goalie who was going to be paid like he was a good goalie. That's it.

Also, any bad goalie can have a game where he stands on his head. For that matter, any bad player can have a game where everything works for him. These guys are all crazy talented. The big difference between good and bad is the ability to do it every night.
 

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If he was literally standing on his head, 99 times out of 100 it was because he put himself out of position moments before the headstand. Guys all over the place with no real rhyme or reason why he should be.
 

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Mrazek failed to step up when give the reigns for an extended period of time. We can look to his 7 game series in 2015 or stretches where he was lights out, but he never had a single season where he could take over as the starter without some kind of slump.

He was an inconsistent goaltender who constantly lost his net, and was able to make up for it with his athleticism, but not enough to be a reliable starter over the course of an 82 game season.
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ShelbyZ

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I think he will do well in a good young team, first and for most he called out KH on how he was building the team and KH could not have that.

Is this just a spun view of the report that Kahn put out saying that Mrazek at one point was angry that Holland wasn't able to trade Howard? You'd think Mrazek would've just backed up his anger on the ice instead of playing like garbage and losing the starting job to Howard or Coreau a handful of different times...

Then the team quit playing for Trash and as we have seen this year again hangs their goalies out to dry.

Was that before or after Howard posted .92+ in 16/17 behind the same team that Mrazek was garbage behind?

He was only a hired gun in Philly was never staying there.

Revisionism trying to cover for Petr's ECHL level play for the Flyers.

The Flyers would've had the chance to keep him past that season (hence the conditionals) and then could've moved one of their other guys to make room, but he gave them no reason to stay around.


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Back on the thread topic... Mrazek pretty much displaced Howard and was near Vezina worthy at the middle of 15/16, but was never able to be consistently good after that point:

-He bombed a game against the Bruins on his 24th birthday and struggled mightily for the rest of 15/16, losing the starting job to Howard. Mrazek then played well in 3 playoff games against TB.
-At some point around this time was when some Czech language interview came out where Mrazek insinuated that his relationship with Howard was only professional and that Jim Bedard was better for Jimmy than he was for him
-The Red Wings went into summer 2016 by letting go of Bedard and promoting the goalie coach from GR who had previously worked with Mrazek
-IIRC, this was also when Kahn reported the whole thing about Mrazek being "less than tactful" in his reaction to Jimmy not being traded
-Also that summer, the Wings elected for team elected arbitration with Mrazek. This was when some controversial Instragram "how we gonna do arbitration with Kenny [dollar sign emojis]" or whatever appeared and then disappeared
-Mrazek ended up getting a 2yr $8M dollar deal, paying him like a starter
-Mrazek started 16/17 as the #1 guy. However, despite his big new paychecks and familiar goalie coach, he struggled early. Once the team started to lean on Howard more, Jimmy went down for like 3 months. Mrazek continued to struggle and for a little while he even lost the #1 job to Jared Coreau.
-At one point, in response to Coreau getting starts, Mrazek stormed off the ice at practice or something.
-Eventually Coreau revealed that he was nothing more than an AHL goalie and they rode Mrazek until Howard returned. After that they rotated.
-Then Mrazek got left exposed to Vegas, where he was passed on in favor of Tomas Nosek
-It seemed like at that point the Red Wings were ready to wash their hands of Petr and weren't going to give him his $4.15M qualifying offer, despite the pleas of his most ardent apologists
-After his trade to the Flyers, it was reported at a few places that he had burned some bridges in Detroit and even Petr himself had admitted that in Detroit he was "resistant to change" when his game went south.

IMO, it seemed like there were some attitude/coaching issues off the ice that soured the front office on him. It also seemed like at a certain point the league figured him out and he didn't want to adjust.
 
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If he was literally standing on his head, 99 times out of 100 it was because he put himself out of position moments before the headstand. Guys all over the place with no real rhyme or reason why he should be.

There were a few games where Mrazek was FABULOUS with his positioning. The game where Ovy had something like 15 shots and no goals. Mrazek was on it that game. But yeah, if a goalie is routinely making diving stops and doing other acrobatics in net? Unless he's Dominik Hasek, he's usually a terrible ****ing goalie. Watch Carey Price. Watch Flower. They hardly move once they're set. Their skating is fantastic and keeps them centered and in a good spot to make not only the first save but any rebounds too.

Read a thing by Ben Scrivens that basically every goalie basically goes set for first shot, set to face one rebound, then bailout and hope for the best on shots 3+. I have way more respect for the guy who makes goaltending look ****ing easy than the guy who makes diving stabbing saves all the time. Consistency is the name of the game. If you're not consistent, you're not a good goalie.
 

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Is this just a spun view of the report that Kahn put out saying that Mrazek at one point was angry that Holland wasn't able to trade Howard? You'd think Mrazek would've just backed up his anger on the ice instead of playing like garbage and losing the starting job to Howard or Coreau a handful of different times...



Was that before or after Howard posted .92+ in 16/17 behind the same team that Mrazek was garbage behind?



Revisionism trying to cover for Petr's ECHL level play for the Flyers.

The Flyers would've had the chance to keep him past that season (hence the conditionals) and then could've moved one of their other guys to make room, but he gave them no reason to stay around.


===

Back on the thread topic... Mrazek pretty much displaced Howard and was near Vezina worthy at the middle of 15/16, but was never able to be consistently good after that point:

-He bombed a game against the Bruins on his 24th birthday and struggled mightily for the rest of 15/16, losing the starting job to Howard. Mrazek then played well in 3 playoff games against TB.
-At some point around this time was when some Czech language interview came out where Mrazek insinuated that his relationship with Howard was only professional and that Jim Bedard was better for Jimmy than he was for him
-The Red Wings went into summer 2016 by letting go of Bedard and promoting the goalie coach from GR who had previously worked with Mrazek
-IIRC, this was also when Kahn reported the whole thing about Mrazek being "less than tactful" in his reaction to Jimmy not being traded
-Also that summer, the Wings elected for team elected arbitration with Mrazek. This was when some controversial Instagram "how we gonna do arbitration with Kenny [dollar sign emojis]" or whatever appeared and then disappeared
-Mrazek ended up getting a 2yr $8M dollar deal, paying him like a starter
-Mrazek started 16/17 as the #1 guy. However, despite his big new paychecks and familiar goalie coach, he struggled early. Once the team started to lean on Howard more, Jimmy went down for like 3 months. Mrazek continued to struggle and for a little while he even lost the #1 job to Jared Coreau.
-At one point, in response to Coreau getting starts, Mrazek stormed off the ice at practice or something.
-Eventually Coreau revealed that he was nothing more than an AHL goalie and they rode Mrazek until Howard returned. After that they rotated.
-Then Mrazek got left exposed to Vegas, where he was passed on in favor of Tomas Nosek
-It seemed like at that point the Red Wings were ready to wash their hands of Petr and weren't going to give him his $4.15M qualifying offer, despite the pleas of his most ardent apologists
-After his trade to the Flyers, it was reported at a few places that he had burned some bridges in Detroit and even Petr himself had admitted that in Detroit he was "resistant to change" when his game went south.

IMO, it seemed like there were some attitude/coaching issues off the ice that soured the front office on him. It also seemed like at a certain point the league figured him out and he didn't want to adjust.

That was very thorough and well put!
 

TheClap

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He is a nut job who blames his defense when he lets in a soft goal.

To be fair, did you see the Wings defense the past couple seasons?

Not absolving Mrazek, he played himself the roster, but Hasek in his prime would have struggled with this roster and coach.
 
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