Proposal: Cory Schneider to WPG

[Gump Hasek]

but know that the Devils would never trade Schneider for Connor straight up anyways.

Nor would the Jets make that trade, as already stated.

Time to shut this thread down, as the proposal isn't really a fit for either team at this time.

 

[broinwhyteridge]

Nor would the Jets make that trade, as already stated.

Time to shut this thread down, as the proposal isn't really a fit for either team at this time.

A statement that applies to 99% of everything in this section!

 

[JimEIV]

Schneider has no miles on his body.

Just a little perspective...

When Martin Brodeur was Schneider's age he had already played 661 NHL games not including playoffs and he played until he was 42 years old.

For someone a little more contemporary, Luongo played 612 NHL games (not counting playoffs) by the time he was 30 years old and he is still playing 60+ at a high level at 36.

Carey Price is 28 years old and has already played 447 NHL games, again not counting playoffs.

Schneider has played 270 over 8 NHL seasons at 30 years old. Cory's actual age maybe 30, but his hockey age is more like 25.

 

[Number1RedWingsFan52]

Shero isn't dealing Schneider so it's not happening, Winnipeg will do fine with Hellebuyck as their future #1 Goaltender.

 

[JetsHomer]

Schneider has no miles on his body.

Just a little perspective...

When Martin Brodeur was Schneider's age he had already played 661 NHL games not including playoffs and he played until he was 42 years old.

For someone a little more contemporary, Luongo played 612 NHL games (not counting playoffs) by the time he was 30 years old and he is still playing 60+ at a high level at 36.

Carey Price is 28 years old and has already played 447 NHL games, again not counting playoffs.

Schneider has played 270 over 8 NHL seasons at 30 years old. Cory's actual age maybe 30, but his hockey age is more like 25.

'Hockey age' isn't a thing. Unless you can provide some evidence that it's players GP that correlates to a player's performance and not chronological age?

 

[DJJones]

'Hockey age' isn't a thing. Unless you can provide some evidence that it's players GP that correlates to a player's performance and not chronological age?

DeAngelo Williams is living proof.

Kobe Bryant is the opposite, he had a 40 year old body at 35.

I'm hoping that Mark Giordano will also prove this to be true.

 

[JimEIV]

'Hockey age' isn't a thing. Unless you can provide some evidence that it's players GP that correlates to a player's performance and not chronological age?

You are not correct at all. There have been numerous articles written on the longevity of the butterfly goalies, both from medicine/doctor perspective as well as player management perspective.

It has been thought that there is only so much mileage the hips of goalie can take, one of the reasons for Brodeur's longevity was he didn't play that style.

If you google the topic there is tons of information.

This is pretty interesting:
Unuited States Library of Medicine - http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/25498869


PURPOSE:
This study aimed to characterize the radiographic deformity observed in a consecutive series of butterfly goalies with symptomatic mechanical hip pain and to use computer-based software analysis to identify the location of impingement and terminal range of motion. We also compared these analyses to a matched group of positional hockey players with symptomatic femoroacetabular impingement (FAI).
METHODS:
A consecutive series of 68 hips in 44 butterfly-style hockey goalies and a matched group of 34 hips in 26 positional hockey players who underwent arthroscopic correction for symptomatic FAI were retrospectively analyzed. Each patient underwent preoperative anteroposterior (AP) and modified Dunn lateral radiographs and computed tomography (CT) of the affected hips. Common FAI measurements were assessed on plain radiographs. Patient-specific, CT-based 3-dimensional (3D) models of the hip joint were developed, and the femoral version, alpha angles at each radial clock face position, and femoral head coverage were calculated. Maximum hip flexion, abduction, internal rotation in 90° flexion (IRF), flexion/adduction/internal rotation (FADIR), and butterfly position were determined, and the areas of bony collision were defined.
RESULTS:
Butterfly goalies had an elevated mean alpha angle on both AP (61.3°) and lateral radiographs (63.4°) and a diminished beta angle (26.0°). The mean lateral center-edge angle (LCEA) measured 27.3° and acetabular inclination was 6.1°. A crossover sign was present in 59% of the hips. The maximum alpha angle on the radial reformatted computed tomographic scan was significantly higher among the butterfly goalies (80.9° v 68.6°; P < .0001) and was located in a more lateral position (1:00 o'clock v. 1:45 o'clock; P < .0001) compared with positional players.
CONCLUSIONS:
Symptomatic butterfly hockey goalies have a high prevalence of FAI, characterized by a unique femoral cam-type deformity and noted by an elevated alpha angle and loss of offset, which is greater in magnitude and more lateral when compared with that in positional hockey players. Associated acetabular dysplasia is also common among hockey goalies.
LEVEL OF EVIDENCE:
Level IV, prognostic case series.

But tons and tons of info has been written on the subject

http://www.si.com/more-sports/2009/03/18/butterfly-hipinjuries

http://ingoalmag.com/news/butterfly-and-hip-injuries-backstrom-back-to-surgeon/

 

[OCPenguin]

Kyle Connor plus a pick for Schneider?

LOL ... why would NJ trade its best player and one of the best goalies in the NHL for a good prospect that could bust just as easily and a pick, which may not amount to anything?