Well yes, that is not contrary to my point though. But just because I make shit up does not mean you have to investigate it to prove me wrong. If you make it up then a lot of the burden of proof is on you. Anyhow, that would be my point of view. What they did was extensive research into this theory already before being there, and now they even went there to inspect the facility and interview concerned staff. This creates a press release saying what most of us expected it to say, and people go off because of it. People are pissed off because the WHO is not saying what they want them to say, it is really ironic calling them puppets since that is exactly what many seem to think they should be.
edit: Anyway, I will not go much further down this road, there are issues with the WHO which need to be addressed. I know on here there is a strong and vocal anti-WHO contingent, some of the criticism is definitely justified. This one though is not, and all this over the top constant bashing is really counterproductive to that and to what we actually need going forward from this organization.
Although I disagree with a lot of your comments, I think you’ve been mostly reasonable in your posts in these threads, and no doubt your reaction to the subject has been coloured by the tragic loss of life in the region in which you reside. So I’m going to try my best to reply to this post with as much courtesy as I can muster.
I think throughout the series of threads on this topic (what number are we even on now? Thirty something?) ... anyway, it’s become apparent that the information consumed by everyone is not the same. Why is this? I guess it’s because many regular people continue to have faith in the msm. I don’t mean anything negative or insulting by using the word ‘regular people’, I just want to identify that group of people who, for reasons I am unable to understand, refuse to recognize that the msm has morphed into a corrupt force in society that is actively pursuing agendas not at all in common with the good of the people. Sadly, I believe if one is obtaining their information strictly from a few traditionally ‘recognized’ sources they are running a great risk of being ill informed, or worse, purposely misinformed. It is ironic then that these same folks will dismiss publications and media outlets outside of their ‘approved’ regular channels as being ‘alternative’ or ‘biased’ or ‘conspiracy driven’. Somehow they have failed to notice the bias, the agenda, the distortion within their own approved sources.
For this reason I feel like it’s only by consuming a wide variety of media sources that one is able to cobble together something resembling a true picture of what is going on. I read the Guardian every week for example even though I find it to be a loathsome rag full of half truths and propaganda. Similarly I will also read Breitbart from time to time to see the slant they have taken on a particular topic even though I’m well aware that they are an agenda driven operation. I often find the best sources are foreign papers and websites who exist to some extent outside of the bubble in which western civilization is engaging in its cultural death match.
I guess it’s none of my business what media anyone consumes ... until someone poses the sort of questions that you pose in the post above. You demand that ‘someone prove’ that the covid virus originated in a PRC laboratory and was released on the world either through a shocking failure in safety protocols or something more sinister.
Please ask yourself what proof would satisfy you. I suggest that proof of the level you probably require is not available. And never will be. This is PRC we are dealing with here. Run by one of the most corrupt governments the world has ever seen. With a track record of atrocities and human rights violations that beggars belief. There is no length to which they would not go, no low to which they would not stoop, to achieve their goals. And they’ve now had a full year to cover their tracks. You think they left any evidence lying around? You think any impartial investigator will ever have full and free access to the sites and people involved? The only chance the world might ever have to know the truth about Wuhan is if a whistleblower came forward. That could still happen I guess but we all know PRC doesn’t wait for whistleblowers to step forward. They will proactively arrest and detain indefinitely.
Many many sources offering such ‘proof’ as
is available have been posted in this thread and it’s previous versions. I know because I have posted some of them. If you honestly cared to inform yourself you would have read these articles as they were posted. Even on the subject of whistleblowers, articles have been posted several times identifying key figures from WIV, and citizen journalists, who have ‘disappeared’. There have been articles by reputable and qualified scientists saying quite certainly that a laboratory leak cannot be ruled out and indeed must be one of the main scenarios considered by any investigation. Many articles. Either you didn’t read them, or along the vein of what I posted above, you glanced at them before dismissing them as not being published in the ‘right’ sources or not coming from the ‘right’ sort of doctor. That’s on you. Im not going to sift through these threads to repost stuff that you could find on your own if you were so inclined.
But let’s speak about the WHO since their bias is very easy to prove. Today Peter Daszak - the only person to be a member of both the WHO and Lancet teams investigating the origins of this virus - has once again used his pulpit to praise PRC and urge the citizens of the world to ‘pay no attention’ to the USA and their crazy theories about laboratory leaks. Daszak is clearly up to his eyeballs in conflict of interest and is in no way a credible person to be investigating his pals at the WIV. See the quotes below which can be found in any number of newspapers.
Daszak is the contractor who funded the WIV's research on bat SARS-related coronaviruses, with subcontracts of $200 million in USAID funding and $7 million in NIH funding. In addition to the funding EcoHealth Alliance receives from USAID, NIH, and other agencies, which it funnels into the WIV, the firm received US$30 million from the US Department of Defense.
When asked whether Daszak had been involved in the controversial gain of function experiments on bat coronaviruses at the WIV, Ebright (the Board of Governors Professor of Chemistry and Chemical Biology at Rutgers University, and Laboratory Director at the Waksman Institute of Microbiology) said: "Daszak has been a contractor, a collaborator, and a co-author on work at the WIV on construction and analysis of novel chimeric coronaviruses." Ebright said this makes "it clear that WHO and Lancet reviews cannot be considered credible investigations."
I urge you to read the article linked below in full. It contains a complete shredding of Daszak and the WHO investigation. Daszak is btw the same guy who wrote an op/ed in the Guardian defending the best practices of WIV and also rounded up some of his bought and paid for colleagues to sign and circulate a letter stating that WIV was never a possible source for the virus. In fact he has really been a one man crusade stomping out any fires that may reflect badly on PRC. This guy is as corrupt as the day is long. And the really sad thing is that the WHO is such a bunch of sock puppets that they don’t even care about his conflict of interest. It’s right out in the open. This is how little respect they have for people like you who believe in their ‘good work’. They are basically giving the world the finger as they pocket the checks and enjoy the hospitality of their good friends in PRC. You say above that we should be less hostile toward WHO so that we can all get ‘what we need from this organization going forward’. What we ‘need’ is for this organization to disappear and be replaced by something that is actually fit for purpose.
WHO inspector has conflict of interest in Wuhan COVID probe: Prominent biologist | Taiwan News | 2021/02/04
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