Being “right”? About what, exactly? How is anyone “right” in this discussion?
My approach was wrong last couple of days, but I still firmly believe in everything I said. I just should have done so in an easier manner.
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My approach was wrong last couple of days, but I still firmly believe in everything I said. I just should have done so in an easier manner.
Yesh you're not actually right about anything, you just have your opinions and when others have different opinions, you make it personal. Quality approach... giggle on!
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I think the entire sensitivity towards the China piece was only because of the need to push back against the person that was driving it.
Regardless, COVID *did* derive from there, as these other strains derived where they did. It’s all the same, and that’s where my perspective is coming from. I don’t blame any of the areas where each is coming from. BUT, it’s not an incorrect comment to their genesis.
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So Trump was a victim here? And the only problem or difference is that people didn't like Trump?
I've twice laid out the case why that's not true, so yeah, disagreeing strongly. If Hillary or Biden or anyone else had said the same things there would be just as much backlash, imo. But they wouldn't have so moot point.
Trump even told his followers to NOT call it "Coronavirus", but use "China Virus" instead. Is that going on with the variants? He also insisted on using that name in order to tell Americans the spread at home was not their fault (and by extension, not his fault or responsibility...which he even stated when he famously took no responsibility).
Donald Trump: It's 'China virus', not coronavirus which sounds like 'beautiful place' in Italy says trump | World News - Times of India
This is not merely some pedantic naming convention. It's a political deflection and branding of the pandemic to avoid backlash, and hang any failure at home (or within the administration) on China.
Trump on ‘Chinese virus’ label: ‘It’s not racist at all’
Don't you think it's ODD that Trump stopped saying "coronavirus" and changed to this "Chinese Virus" narrative when the stock market crashed?
Really really odd. So odd.
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LOL. Where did I EVER say Trump was a victim?
I can’t even go beyond that comment. Come on, man. That’s just silly
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Ok so he's responsible for his words, then. That's fine.
You should read beyond the first sentence because it may cause you to consider the other side of this.
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Yeah, crazy. Keeping their people healthy and alive.
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LAST WARNING.. DROP THE POLITICAL COMMENTARY (INCLUDING DISCUSSIONS OF REGONAL DISTINCTIONS/CANCEL CULTURE/WHATEVER THE f***) AND PERSONAL BULLSHIT OR THE THREAD GETS THE AXE!
It should be the Axe anyway. We obv can’t discuss this without it turning into a pissing contest filled w emotion and false rhetoric. People are reading what they want to read, and doing so in bully ways.
I include myself in that, before anyone states otherwise.
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Keep it going imo. This is important shit.
It's hard to NOT talk politics when so much of the elements tied to it, right down to prevention and perception of danger, have become political footballs themselves, though. Sad.
It's hard to NOT talk politics when so much of the elements tied to it, right down to prevention and perception of danger, have become political footballs themselves, though. Sad.
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And apologies to our great mods for dragging on the political commentary, I know the rules well enough (lol) and know we should just report instead of responding, but I think the stakes are too high to allow some things to go unchallenged.
But going to try and reel it in. For the greater good.
But going to try and reel it in. For the greater good.
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Not surprising since we've known for months that it was likely in the US at that time already.
U.S. Covid Cases Found as Early as December 2019, Says Study
The timeline of emergence probably shifts back a few months, possibly October by some reports. I would guess even earlier in weaker variants that affected at-risk humans before further mutations produced the strain that started the exponential spread.
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Pfft that's a kind way of describing it. More likely they neglected to warn the world because OMG not losing face is SO much more important than admitting a mistake was made. 2.5 million deaths later, but hey, at least they didn't lose face....
I’m over this. China f***ed the world over. They just did. I don’t care to argue my opinion. It’s mine and I own it.
I’m also over fighting about this issue. I’m going to do what I’m going to do, and everyone else should do the same. I have no issues w that.
I’m also over fighting about this issue. I’m going to do what I’m going to do, and everyone else should do the same. I have no issues w that.
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Nobody here has been defending China. But their negligence in handling the situation isn't license to just do whatever after the fact, and then blame China.
If it's ever found they manufactured the virus then yeah, go ahead and blame them. But right now there is ZERO evidence of that. None.
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Of course not. They are at levels of deceit that are only eclipsed by Russia.
and thinking China f***ed this whole thing up has zero to do with what happened thereafter. Not sure why anyone would assume I was making that conclusion. They are mutually exclusive.
However, the root problem in all of this seems to be China, not only with it seemingly starting there, but also with their gross negligence is alerting the world, and also in their own reporting of the severity (3300 dead when we had like 100,000 at the same time is an absolute lie), which had a similar type impact as the US governmental response in soft pedaling the true concerns. Both were horrible and attributed to thousands and thousands of extra deaths.
Again, the Chinese government completely screwed the world, and it’s not talked about enough. What happened after is not relevant to that part of the saga that is COVID
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Very good. I can only read about this much before paywall kicks in:
Here's CNN's version, no paywall
Pfizer-BioNTech vaccine sharply reduces symptomatic Covid-19 in the real world, Israeli researchers say - CNN
on variant effectiveness:
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