News Article: Corey Pronmans: "Farm system rankings" Habs at 6. -The Athletic
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dackelljuneaubulis02
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ah i didn't know he wrote for the bloody athletic too! lol.
I'm sure it's great and I'm sure it's worth it and it's probably not that expensive but there's just something
galling about paying for hockey journalism.
Im pretty weary of anyone who uses the current draft as a reason to bump a prospect pool 20 + spots. Every year people hype guys and then a year later it all regresses to the mean.
WinterLion
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The big knock on the Habs prospect pool was high end talent. Even last year most people admitted we had good depth.
After reading Pronmans article and looking at our "top 10 under 23" I'm pretty excited. It's a solid list.
WinterLion
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I hear you, but it's totally worth it for me because it means there are no ads and there is a certain level of consistency you don't get elsewhere. So much "hockey journalism" is pretty bad... hopefully they at least help to raise the bar.
Captain Mountain
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Every year. Not just their draft year.
And while I don't agree with Pronman's ranking, at least he's not stat watching, he actually scouts guys.
And the reality is that most top prospects that become top players make the NHL within a year or two of their draft. You have to consider recently drafted players greatly.
And rankings are an inexact science. Its a gauge, not a precision thing.
Grate n Colorful Oz
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I'm still mad we didn't get first OV. Although that might've saved Bergy's tush in the end.
Grate n Colorful Oz
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That'll change pretty quick with the coming disaster seasons.
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JohnLennon
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Huge progress in this pool. Habs taking top 6 has moved them up 20-something spots year-on-year. Taking a look at the top players under 23 for the Habs is also quite encouraging.
One thing I think we should note as Habs fans is how much we seem to underrate Ikonen compared to guys like Pronman and Mitch Brown, who actually scout these guys and both think he is among the best prospects on the Habs. Really looking forward to seeing how he does this year.
One thing I think we should note as Habs fans is how much we seem to underrate Ikonen compared to guys like Pronman and Mitch Brown, who actually scout these guys and both think he is among the best prospects on the Habs. Really looking forward to seeing how he does this year.
Mrb1p
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Corey Pronman of the Athletic just released the 6th best farm system, overall, in the league; the Habs.
He ranks Kotkaniemi as an "Elite prospect":
Theres, I believe, 6 prospects ranked in this category, and one in the other category, just above, Dahlin.
He ranks two of our prospects as "Very good prospects":
He ranks four of our prospects as "legit NHL prospects":
You guys should check out the Athletics if you don't already, great sports articles.
Pronman: 2018-19 NHL farm system rankings
He ranks Kotkaniemi as an "Elite prospect":
Theres, I believe, 6 prospects ranked in this category, and one in the other category, just above, Dahlin.
He ranks two of our prospects as "Very good prospects":
He ranks four of our prospects as "legit NHL prospects":
He ranks 20 players on our pool, missing Gorniak, Tyszka and Romanov. The deepest pool in the league has 23 prospects of note, ours as 21, and I should add, these three are probably underrated by Pronman, a bit, mainly for being under the radar and not having impressive statistics.
You guys should check out the Athletics if you don't already, great sports articles.
Pronman: 2018-19 NHL farm system rankings
Sorinth
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Seems normal that a current draft plays a big impact on the prospect pool, especially if you have a top-pick. Your prospect pool is really only your last 3-4 drafts. So if a third of your pool is based on the latest draft it's normal that it would play a big impact.
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Paywall Pronnie's Habs breakdown is unviewable. This year's draft selections must have tilted the balance, to say the least.
I don't remember where the Habs ranked last year. Tried to look it up and yes, Paywall Pronnie has his 2017 rankings also behind a paywall.
I'm all for the guy making a living but there is so much stuff available for free and so little time to view it all, that I can't get myself to pay for it. I have no doubt that it's quality content.
I don't remember where the Habs ranked last year. Tried to look it up and yes, Paywall Pronnie has his 2017 rankings also behind a paywall.
I'm all for the guy making a living but there is so much stuff available for free and so little time to view it all, that I can't get myself to pay for it. I have no doubt that it's quality content.
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Mrb1p
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They jumped up 17 spots, all the way from 23.
You don't just get access to Pronmans stuff, its the whole Athletic stuff, for 30ish a year (75 I think if you get full price, which is hefty.)
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Thanks. I'm not looking for anything for free either. I'm just glad he casts the Habs prospects in such a favorable light.
Mrb1p
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With all our prospects save Juulsen not graduating, were looking at top 5 for sure, even more so since the Sens dont have a first pick, and Van/Carolina/Buffalo. I think NYI is the only one that is a real threat to us.
Yeah it is your last 3-4 drafts, Im not saying I didnt expect improvement but they were like late 20's last year werent they? I just dont see how 1 draft moves the needle that far when outside of the high end prospect most other teams added similar prospects.
As I'm sure you can expect - its triggered a few fine folks.
