Convince Me Talbot Is A Good Starter

[Ritchie Valens]

I’m well aware of Devans travels after leaving Edmonton and I do remember the narrative being he needed to work on his game. What’s funny is that he had 3 years of good goaltending for the Oilers before he shat the bed. 3 years of over .915 goaltending. So what? For one year he totally forgot how to play goal or what?

Look at the goalies in the NHL today. Even some vets and premier goalies have down periods, and some lesser goalies can have hot streaks. The reason being is because the goalie position is very mental and based on confidence.

I don’t know how much confidence Dubnyk could have had with Dallas Eakins ineffective swarm defence combined with a defence crew that featured non NHLer Belov, non NHLer Larsen, non NHLer Marincin, non NHLer Fraser, non NHLer Potter, future non NHLers N.Schultz and Ference, and rookies in Klefbom and J Schultz it was just a revolving door of **** D men that year. I beleive this year destroyed Dubnyk confidence to the point where he questioned everything about his game, to finally regain that confidence he had to go through multiple orgs and coaches to finally feel like he had fixed his game leading to his confidence coming back.

If the org could have found a way to put a legit NHL D and a competent coach in front of him that year, I’d say the odds are he’d have just continued his decent play in Edmonton.

No goalie would have had much success during the Eakins years-I think everyone would agree to that, but Dubnyk also had the propensity to give up a deflating, soft goal which totally crushed the team (eerily reminiscent of last year). I recall these forums when he was the Oilers goalie and how pissed posters were that he passed blame on everyone but himself. Cam is the first guy to stand up and say "That loss was on me". Dubnyk never spoke those words, as an Oiler anyways that I recall.

I recall reading an article on his "career resurrection" and he basically admits he looked in the mirror and realised the guy looking back at him was a huge part of the problem and humbled himself with a less than a million dollar deal and took it upon himself to re-invent himself, which he clearly has done. I'm happy the guy turned his career around but it didn't happen without some self-evaluation and I didn't see it happening with Edmonton.

100% agree how mentally tough and confident goalies must be and how easy that confidence and toughness can be lost. I also think Chabot played part in his "coaching" of the Oilers goalies.

 

[Drivesaitl]

Talbot didn't have a good game and the 4th was weak for sure but he had some good stops and a passable game.

But my main concern is Talbot should not have started the game. Koskinen, with his big frame is more suited to fill the net against a Wild team that simply bring everything to the net and have that as their strategy. The Wild are not an elite scoring club. This would have been an ideal game to start Koskinen and I feel Talbot has been very sharp in recent contests but has played too many of the games.

for 2.5M Koskinen should be seeing around 3/10 starts. not 1/11

 

[Bryanbryoil]

Talbot didn't have a good game and the 4th was weak for sure but he had some good stops and a passable game.

But my main concern is Talbot should not have started the game. Koskinen, with his big frame is more suited to fill the net against a Wild team that simply bring everything to the net and have that as their strategy. The Wild are not an elite scoring club. This would have been an ideal game to start Koskinen and I feel Talbot has been very sharp in recent contests but has played too many of the games.

for 2.5M Koskinen should be seeing around 3/10 starts. not 1/11

Koskinen needs to play more for a number of reasons.

1) To push Talbot to be better

2) To give Talbot much needed rest

3) To sort out which goalie we should be investing in moving forward if either of the two warrant
such an investment

4) To keep Koskinen sharp in case of injury or poor play from Talbot

 

[Took a pill in Sbisa]

Current starting goalie since Cam Talbot has joined the Oilers:
Updated 12/11/18
SV%
1. Antti Raanta 0.926
2. John Gibson 0.924
3. Roberto Luongo 0.922
T-4.Corey Crawford 0.921
T-4. Devan Dubnyk 0.921
T-4. Sergei Bobrovsky 0.921
7. Carter Hutton 0.920
T-8. Ben Bishop 0.919
T-8. Pekka Rinne 0.919
T-8. Frederik Andersen 0.919
T-11. Marc-Andre Fleury 0.918
T-11. Andrei Vasilevskey 0.918
T-11. Jonathan Quick 0.918
T-14. Robin Lehner 0.917
T-14. Braden Holtby 0.917
T-16. Henrik Lundqvist 0.915
T-16. Connor Hellebuyck 0.916
T-18. Tukka Rask 0.915
T-18. Brian Elliott 0.915
T-18. Semyon Varlamov 0.915
T-21. Matt Murray 0.914
T-21. Martin Jones 0.914
T-23. Cam Talbot 0.913
T-23. Mike Smith 0.913
T-23. Jimmy Howard 0.913
T-23. Carey Price 0.913
27. Cory Schneider 0.912
T-28. Jacob Markstrom 0.911
T-28. Craig Anderson 0.911
T-28. Jake Allen 0.911
31. Scott Darling 0.906

GAA
1. Antti Raanta 2.23
2. John Gibson 2.29
3. Carter Hutton 2.33
T-4. Ben Bishop 2.35
T-4. Devan Dubnyk 2.35
6. Jonathan Quick 2.36
7. Pekka Rinne 2.37
8. Sergei Bobrovsky 2.39
9. Tukka Rask 2.41
10. Martin Jones 2.42
11. Braden Holtby 2.44
12. Roberto Luongo 2.45
T-13. Corey Crawford 2.46
T-13. Brian Elliott 2.46
15. Marc-Andre Fleury 2.48
16. Connor Hellebuyck 2.57
17. Frederik Andersen 2.60
T-18. Carey Price 2.61
T-18. Jake Allen 2.61
T-18. Andrei Vasilevskey 2.61
21. Corey Schneider 2.64
22. Matt Murray 2.64
23. Cam Talbot 2.67
24. Jimmy Howard 2.69
25. Henrik Lundqvist 2.72
26. Jacob Markstrom 2.75
27. Robin Lehner 2.76
28. Scott Darling 2.79
T-29. Semyon Varlamov 2.81
T-29. Mike Smith 2.81
31. Craig Anderson 2.92

 

[Messrules11]

Talbot was great tonight. Held the fort in the first 10 minutes of the game and gave the boys time to wake up. Here’s hoping he’s found his game cuz we’re gonna need him