Connor McDavid Playing With His PCL Torn In Half

[tellermine]

They should have had the operaation.
One more tank year for Oilers.

 

[ItWasJustified]

WHY! WOULD! ANYONE! FORMAT! A! COMMENT! LIKE! THIS!

 

[Rebels57]

I don't even know what a PCL is.

 

[NeverBeNormal]

McDavid did do that at contract time. His contract is one of the best in the league b

His contract isn't even the best on his team (Draisaitl). Mack, Bergeron, Marchand, Pastrnak, those are some of the best deals in the league.

 

[NeverBeNormal]

The problem with waiting until his late 20s is that it's possible that the joint would have degenerated and then surgery is pointless.

The PCL will never be normal, whether there is a surgical repair or not.

I suspect they're trying newer things like PRP injection and serial MRIs to monitor for the slightest signs of joint wear, but that's purely speculation on my part. Stuff they wouldn't do for a regular person.

I'm inside your brain.

 

[Fixxer]

They should have had the operation.
One more tank year for Oilers.

It reminds me of the Carey Price injury in 15-16. It was not the same ligaments, but instead of going the surgery route, he has sat down for months. He switched his technique a bit. While he hasn't been as great, he hasn't been too badly injured since.
I believe most people would absolutely avoid surgery unless it is "needed", even if McDavid's doctor seriously recommended a surgery!!
As long as it doesn't end up like Bure and/or Orr. Stellar careers, but retiring early due to leg injuries. Thery're simply going too fast! LOL

 

[JD1]

That's good to hear. Regarding the knee brace, did you end up buying a recovery knee brace like the Ossur Rebound brace that actually pushes the tibia forward in order to speed up healing? One of the surgeons recommended I buy the Rebound brace to play sports, but the brace is super bulky, used for post-operative recovery, and basically can't be used for sports, so the brace specialists at Ossur were wondering why I would need the Rebound brace since (1) I didn't have surgery so the brace won't allow my PCL to heal and (2) the Rebound brace is too bulky for sports. The brace specialist said I might want the smaller brace that's used for protection and support during sports, but it won't do anything for me recovery-wise. It's a pretty big investment, so I was wondering if it's worth getting either brace.

No. Nothing like that was ever presented to me. I did rehab at a sports med clinic. The only brace ever suggested to me was the don joy i have. It's been really good. Very light weight. Very easy to get use to.

 

[ijuka]

Yeah, pretty idiotic. It was quite clear something was very wrong with McDavid to start the season.

They should have forced him to have his surgery and to recover properly. This celebration of people playing through injuries needs to stop. It hurts him and his team in the long run.

 

[FreeMcdavid]

that this is "short-term gain"...it's nonsense
and this year was probably the least amount of pressure for the club, relatively speaking because of the new GM hire and if McDavid opted for surgery...literally no pressure to make the playoffs

No pressure in Edmonton to make the playoffs??

wow Edmonton fans must be very patient. One of, if not the worst decade plus of seasons from any NHL's teams history and youre saying there's no pressure from fans, management, ownership or even players themselves to make the playoffs?

The Oilers have the best player in the world in and in this generation and in his prime and he has made the playoffs once and you think there's no pressure?

crazy.

Just because the Oilers hired a new GM doesnt mean it gets a restart on the expectations and the urgency for any sort of success post season in Edmonton. How many GMs/ Caoches have they hired this decade? did expectations re-start every time?

 

[CantHaveTkachev]

No pressure in Edmonton to make the playoffs??

wow Edmonton fans must be very patient. One of, if not the worst decade plus of seasons from any NHL's teams history and youre saying there's no pressure from fans, management, ownership or even players themselves to make the playoffs?

The Oilers have the best player in the world in and in this generation and in his prime and he has made the playoffs once and you think there's no pressure?

crazy.

Just because the Oilers hired a new GM doesnt mean it gets a restart on the expectations and the urgency for any sort of success post season in Edmonton. How many GMs/ Caoches have they hired this decade? did expectations re-start every time?

If you bothered to read my post, I said "relatively speaking"...meaning there's was less pressure on on this team than ever before in the McDavid-era...less pressure cause the new GM had little to work with and everyone knew he needed time to shape the roster
heck, most people think the Oilers weren't a playoff team in their pre-season predictions

 

[McFlash97]

If McDavid indeed recovered from what you see in that trailer...he should be nominated for the masterton. Unbelievable dedication to be ready for game 1 of the season after that.

And to now lead the league in points. If he ends up winning the Art Ross the Oilers make the playoffs ...MVP in the bag.

He should not be competing in the fastest skater event to satisfy the NHL brass. f*** that.

 

[Del Preston]

A little more information from Friedman.

The trailer reveals some of the key figures in this groundbreaking endeavour. Gary Roberts is shown, as is Lindsay, a highly sought-after chiropractor and soft-tissue specialist, and longtime gymnastics coach Lawson Hamer. Tracy Wilson, who won Canada’s first-ever Olympic medal in ice dancing (a bronze with Rob McCall in 1988), is not shown, but was part of the team.

McDavid went for imaging every two or three weeks. He chose Humber River Hospital for those appointments because that facility has one of the newer machines and Dr. Mascia is highly regarded — with Bianca Andreescu and Andy Murray among those seeking his expertise.

“Under the expert guidance of Dr. Mark Lindsay, we built our own protocol and tinkered with it along the way,” Jackson said. “Mark actually referred to it as a rehab ‘process’ because it was ever-changing as Connor progressed.”

31 Thoughts: What really happened with Connor McDavid's knee rehab - Sportsnet.ca

 

[TheUltimateOiler]

It reminds me of the Carey Price injury in 15-16. It was not the same ligaments, but instead of going the surgery route, he has sat down for months. He switched his technique a bit. While he hasn't been as great, he hasn't been too badly injured since.
I believe most people would absolutely avoid surgery unless it is "needed", even if McDavid's doctor seriously recommended a surgery!!
As long as it doesn't end up like Bure and/or Orr. Stellar careers, but retiring early due to leg injuries. Thery're simply going too fast! LOL

I am willing to bet hit career will be shortened to a degree. Probably something like retiring around 35

 

[hairylikebear]

The tweet in the OP makes it sound like McDavid told his doctor to f*** off and went to play hockey the next morning. What McDavid has accomplished should absolutely be celebrated.

 

[iCanada]

The tweet in the OP makes it sound like McDavid told his doctor to **** off and went to play hockey the next morning. What McDavid has accomplished should absolutely be celebrated.

Exactly.

He told a highly regarded doctor to shove it and assembled basically the best of the best team to rehab him into not missing a single game.

Mighty impressive, imo.

 

[Alexanderthe89]

I tore my PCL a few years ago. Was told by doctors that surgery options aren't great for PCL injuries, or at least not as straightforward as ACL repairs. Apparently most people who tear PCL's just end up adapting? Never had surgery and did physical therapy for months. It's healed but it's definitely unstable. I can't run more than a mile without it getting pretty noticeable. It's amazing to me that he's been able to play at an elite level with that kind of injury.

 

[McFlyingV]

Level 3 just means it's a cohort study. This isn't a randomization study for a patient controlled treatment or anything.

It's an observational study that relies on looking at procedural records over the years. So you deal with documents and records instead of patients. That's all level 3 means. Not that the data is unreliable. More like an overall over time review.

I'm well aware what level 3 means, and it isn't very good quality. If you're trying to come to any conclusion on a research question you better have some level 1 evidence to feel confident in your answer. And if you're ever trying to answer a question of prognosis or intervention for an elite level athlete then you had better be able to find a study done on high level athletes with similar sport demands otherwise you're comparing apples to oranges and it really doesn't tell you anything.

 

[HF007]

what are the chances he used HGH in his recovery?

give some to nuge too

 

[Kuznetsnow]

His contract isn't even the best on his team (Draisaitl). Mack, Bergeron, Marchand, Pastrnak, those are some of the best deals in the league.

Lol by that logic Kovalchuk has the best contract in the league right now being on pace for PPG at 700k

 

[Kuznetsnow]

I'm well aware what level 3 means, and it isn't very good quality. If you're trying to come to any conclusion on a research question you better have some level 1 evidence to feel confident in your answer. And if you're ever trying to answer a question of prognosis or intervention for an elite level athlete then you had better be able to find a study done on high level athletes with similar sport demands otherwise you're comparing apples to oranges and it really doesn't tell you anything.

Its a miracle humanity figured out anything at all before Canadian Task Force came up with the hierarchy of evidence in 1979

 

[NeverBeNormal]

Lol by that logic Kovalchuk has the best contract in the league right now being on pace for PPG at 700k

You're right, my bad. Similar production for essentially half the cap hit isn't a good deal at all. Those guys are lucky to get the $6-7 mill they're getting, I mean it's not like they've been effective players for years or anything.

 

[Kuznetsnow]

You're right, my bad. Similar production for essentially half the cap hit isn't a good deal at all. Those guys are lucky to get the $6-7 mill they're getting, I mean it's not like they've been effective players for years or anything.

Why have similar production for half the cap hit when Kovalchuk brings "similar" production for 1/9th of their cap hit? It's not like he's been an effective player for close to 2 decades or anything

 

[Fixxer]

I tore my PCL a few years ago. Was told by doctors that surgery options aren't great for PCL injuries, or at least not as straightforward as ACL repairs. Apparently most people who tear PCL's just end up adapting? Never had surgery and did physical therapy for months. It's healed but it's definitely unstable. I can't run more than a mile without it getting pretty noticeable. It's amazing to me that he's been able to play at an elite level with that kind of injury.

The more I read on it, the more I believe he'll be good for a while, but it'll catch up to him.
They say his PCL is tore halfway. I wonder how good it'll hold and if he feels anything unstable too.
Running a F1 with minor damage is bound to cause some issue. We'll see how things turn out but he's still producing at around 1.5 points/game. He will decline someday. Wonder if it'll be natural or a cause of this subtle injury. Laine's back was apparently shot. Gabriel Vilardi was supposed to be pretty much over because of back problems. He's back. A guy like Stamkos actually broke his leg on the post. Each is different. A guy like Nolan Patrick had sport hernia injuries and now migraines. Anyway, McDavid is playing and producing. Hopefully he keeps performing at his generational status.

 

[McFlyingV]

Its a miracle humanity figured out anything at all before Canadian Task Force came up with the hierarchy of evidence in 1979

I mean there's value in knowing what you're reading as there are conflicting studies in just about any field on any subject matter. If you took any one article as gospel without looking at what else is out there and what the quality of each study is you'd be making a huge mistake. If humanity continued down its previous path we might all still think smoking and repeated head traumas are fine.

 

[Rants Mulliniks]

Why have similar production for half the cap hit when Kovalchuk brings "similar" production for 1/9th of their cap hit? It's not like he's been an effective player for close to 2 decades or anything

He hasn't been an effective NHL player for the past 7 years.