Player Discussion: Connor Hellebuyck

[White Out 902]

55/27. I'll keep pounding that drum until someone makes it into a t-shirt slogan.



The thing you have to factor in as well is that the league average save percent was higher during his time, so he was even farther below the grade. All in all, he was about a 2nd percentile goalie relative to league averages over his career. A true degenerational talent.

I remember that lawless told me on the radio I was clueless because I said on a call pavelec was garbage.

 

[AKAChip]

Some things are so obvious, all people from all walks of life and with all viewpoints can agree on. Except Gary Lawless.

 

[GNP]

Except Mason played like **** so I don't see how that made Helly play better. I don't buy into the "pushed with competition" business. Helly is going to have good games and bad games, and it has nothing to do with Brossoit. He knows he's the starter and that won't change short of an extended run of disastrous games, which is unlikely. So, it comes down to how much can Helly motivate himself to be physically and mentally prepared for each start.

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I don't know if I buy what your selling ? -- but I have noticed how well Helle plays after Maurice starts Brossoit, and Brossoit plays really well. I do think it motivates Helle -- but I do see your point. As they say, I guess we'd have to agree to disagree.

 

[AlphaLackey]

I remember that lawless told me on the radio I was clueless because I said on a call pavelec was garbage.

Well, just because Lawless and I are both fatter than a Hefty bag full of vegetable soup, doesn't mean you should confuse our opinions on Pavelec.

 

[Gm0ney]

I remember that lawless told me on the radio I was clueless because I said on a call pavelec was garbage.

Pavs was quite good in the room, I guess.

 

[Board Bard]

Pavs was quite good in the room, I guess.

Quite good? They used to shoot rolls of friction tape at his nards and he dodged every one. #legendary

 

[Gil Fisher]

 

[robertocarlos]

My Dad says if I don't have anything good to say I shouldn't say anything.

 

[Jetfaninflorida]

So, can someone rename the thread to 'Let's debate the definition of Clutch' please. Thanks in advance.

 

[AlphaLackey]

So, can someone rename the thread to 'Let's debate the definition of Clutch' please. Thanks in advance.

The only useful one is to weight the impact of a score-altering event by how it impacts win probabilities, from a scale of 0 (say, scoring or allowing a goal when one team is up by six goals with one second left) to 100 (an overtime goal). We can do this pretty darn precisely, MoneyPuck has a nice P(Win) tracker that even includes the changes in P(Win) if "this team scores next immediately" versus "other team scores next immediately".

There was an EXCEPTIONALLY well-written article in Rob Vollman's 2017 Hockey Abstract on this subject that covered the above methodology.

 

[Saidin]

Yay for Helly, nay for Brossoit.

 

[Jets4Life]

Hellebuyck has been Hellegreat this season

4-3-0
2.38 GAA
0.929%

Can Helle sustain his pace for the remainder of the season?

 

[PhilJets]

Keep it coming Helly

Our young team needs you!!!

 

[Jetfaninflorida]

A solid game by Helle last night. Another one.

 

[PhilJets]

Don't forget this man holds the most wins by American born goalie in NHL history.

 

[Hunter368]

Nice shut out....

 

[Jets4Life]

Connor Hellebuyck stats:

4-4-0, 2.38 GAA, 0.929%, 1 shutout.

Helle has clearly been the Jets MVP sof ar this season. Ironically, Hellebuyck has been lights out since I replaced my Hellebuyck 2015 avatar, with a 2019 Berdin avatar. Coincidence?

 

[LucianoBorsato]

Helle worth every penny so far this season, I shudder to think what some of the scores would be without him.

 

[Gm0ney]

Hellebuyck's a Top 10 starting goalie so far this season. Facing a lot of shots and keeping them out in line with expectations.

 

[AlphaLackey]

Hellebuyck's a Top 10 starting goalie so far this season. Facing a lot of shots and keeping them out in line with expectations.

Definitely satisfies my expectations.

I mean, it could be worse, we could have THE WORST COP IN TOWN!

 

[Adam da bomb]

Does he have any chance at being in Venzina running? He has been outstanding.

 

[Gabe Kupari]

Does he have any chance at being in Venzina running? He has been outstanding.

Likely not. Jets as a team aren't good. Guess if they grab a playoff spot and he has similar numbers at the end of season maybe.

 

[Gabe Kupari]

Hes our only real all star tho. He should be reppin us at the ASG.

 

[DRW204]

 

[JetsUK]

Praise Helle! I read an article recently about Boston's platooning of goalies, and how it has helped over the past few seasons to elevate their team save % and their overall gameplay. Also noted the balanced distribution of TOI among forwards. IIRC, Rask played 42/46 games last year and this was essential to their playoff push.

Should we be aspiring to a more even distribution for Helle/Pastry, even though we might thereby be giving up points since H is clearly outplaying P, or do we ride the hot hand and risk burnout (or hope for a bounce back from Butters as he gets a chance to dial in)?