Condon (OTT) on waivers: cleared

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  1. OD99

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    Please no! Goalies in particular need seasoning especially coming from over seas.

    Belleville is doing fine so far...I will keep saying they need to instill a winning culture there first before it will really translate to the big club.

    Let the kids play and grow in a relatively stress free environment and when they come up next year or the year after we have a group who are used to winning and playing the right way together.

    A few of them will be impact players but this Ottawa season is shot and no need to mess with the development of the future.
     
  2. danielpalfredsson

    danielpalfredsson i dont feel anything anymore

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    I could see Gustavsson getting a game in to have a taste of the NHL, but otherwise there's no need to rush the guy. His AHL numbers in a short sample size look promising. If he ends up as Anderson's successor 2-3 years from now, that'd be huge for this team.
     
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    I have a gut feeling Condon gets claimed for some reason... maybe NYI since Lou had interest in him in toronto
     
  4. user26

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    I doubt it. Maybe a trade with some retaining of Condon. Doubt that as well though.

    Edit: just realized time. He cleared
     
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    Nvm he cleared
     
  6. bert

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    I cant believe no one has picked him up?! :sarcasm:
     
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  7. Do Make Say Think

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    Still saved the season. He played 25 games in a row and was very solid.
     
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    It gives Condon a chance to regain his form.

    It means Condon is not backstopping the Sens any time soon.

    It costs Melnyk more money, while #EmptyCTC is draining his resources.

    Win-Win-Win.
     
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    I don't know...

    Among goalies who played at least 1000 mins at Even Strength in 2016-17 (on 50 goalies) :

    SV% : 43th
    HDSV% : 37th
    MDSV% : 26th
    LDV% : 42nd
    Average Goal distance : 45th
    Average Shot distance : 40th
    SA/60 : 39th
    HDSA/60 : 41th

    He seemed to have better numbers on the PK (among 51 goalie who played at least 100 minutes on the PK):

    SV% : 12th
    HDSV% : 11th
    MDSV% : 22th
    LDV% : 28th
    Average Goal distance : 43rd
    Average Shot distance : 48th
    SA/60 : 30th
    HDSA/60 : 46th

    The team did a good job defensively in 2016-17

    CA/60 at ES : 27th
    SA/60 at ES : 13th
    SCA/60 at ES : 22nd
    HDCA/60 at ES : 14th

    On the PK :

    CA/60 : 22nd
    SA/60 : 11th
    SCA/60 : 15th
    HDCA/60 : 8th

    He did well considering the situation and how good he is, helped the team stay afloat (19-14-6) while Andy was away. Many goalies would have done the same or better.
     
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  10. Tnuoc Alucard

    Tnuoc Alucard There's more than 1 side to any story or issue.

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    Eleven games in the AHL.......and on North American Sized Ice (plus any he may have played in the ECHL) ........ needs a minimum of two seasons in the AHL, before considering moving him up to the NHL




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  11. coladin

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    I'm not ready to write the season off yet, but he may force his way up here. Let's hope that is the case.
     
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    So seems like a good idea to extend him for three years... I mean they just made the mistake with Hammond the exact same mistake lol.

    I just dont know how the GM hasnt come under fire for trying to waive 12 million in salary of players he signed in the last two years. Its crazy.
     
  13. coladin

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    At least he is trying to correct mistakes. GMs sometimes make mistakes you know. Every GM gambles and sometimes you win, sometimes you lose. If he did nothing about it, I would have more an issue with complacency.

    Smith and Condon have not been good enough, and there are consequences to that.
     
  14. OD99

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    I don't think he can force his way up. Goalies need time, time, time...you can't rush them.

    He needs at minimum this season down there and most likely next season too - he is sharing the crease down there so its not like he is getting tons of minutes anyway.

    Not writing this season off but the D won't magically tighten up and putting a rookie goalie in to backstop that is a disaster waiting to happen...can't disagree more with any concept of bringing either of our young goalies up.
     
  15. Tnuoc Alucard

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    He needs to play at least a couple of hundred games, on North American sized ice, before he's ready to move to the NHL.

    Lehner played a season in the OHL, and about 95 games in the AHL before he became the Back up in Ottawa ....... and imo, he was rushed to a point.
     
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    To even think that the Senators should "Lazar" Gustavsson is mind boggling.
     
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    Yep add in EM,s words of money in for money out ,and its not too hard to see why Ottawa is currently in the position its in
     
  18. Cat Herder

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    Apparently Condon is not being assigned to Belleville just yet

     
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    We better not be giving anything up to just move him...
     
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    unless it is Ceci :P
     
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    More than likely he'll just be subbing in on some other teams ahl team and they'll help pay some of the freight.
     
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    I mean its more likely than anything else happening realistically. They cant get rid of him for free, and its all about money i wouldnt at all be surprised if a pick is attached to him to get rid of the problem.
     
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  24. Do Make Say Think

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    I never said that it was ok to extend him for three years for that much money, I just said letting him walk after saving the season wasn't something they really considered. They hoped to sign him for less but we have absolutely no leverage: players know our management can't play hardball cause we have no money, a meddling owner and can't attract UFAs.

    Condon's agent used all the tools available and got his client, and himself, the most money he could.
     
  25. coladin

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    I don't think magic has anything to do with tightening up the D. The odds are best with young players, young pros, because they tend to listen to the coaches more. I think they can tighten up, but it will also require the forwards to forecheck a heck of a lot more.

    Matt Murray came up reasonably early. It has happened before but of course, he would have to come up when the time is right. To predetermine when that would be would not take into account the development of the player as they all develop at different paces.
     

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