Condon (OTT) on waivers: cleared

[KAPOW]

Who care's really...its not like we are a cap team anyways. What does it matter what we save at this point?

certainly matters for the guy that pays the bills

 

[DueDiligence]

Probably just assigned to the AHL once he clears to get some games in, McKenna can back up until Condon is playing with enough confidence to return

Exactly. Let him play down there for 3-4 games to get his confidence/game back. Then he will return.

 

[topshelf15]

Meh, its a bad contract but hardly crippling...

 

[Xspyrit]

Can't make this stuff up.

We go from paying a team to take Hammond from us because he costs 1 million over the next year, and now will have Condon in the AHL (if they send him) the year after signing him to a very obvious bad deal.

Dorion's tenure has been entertaining at the very least

Hammond extension was a lot more deserved though. He came in and was a hero, posting a 20-1-2 record, 1.79, 0.941 SV% helping the team to do a miraculous come back and make the playoffs with 99 pts. That got him 3 years at 1.35 AAV

Condon had a nice stretch when acquired, but you saw as the season went on that he was not that good, he helped the team stay afloat while Andy was away with 19-14-6, 2.50, 0.914 SV%. That got him 3 years at 2.4 AAV????

 

[BonHoonLayneCornell]

Get his confidence back?

That's not going to do anything for him, he's just bad.

 

[DueDiligence]

It is unique when the players you are waiving are supposed to be the key personnel you signed for long contracts.

lots of players go through rough spots

Dorion...
Waives Smith right before season starts => puts him back on the top line.
Goalie has an embarrassing game => waives him immediately.
The guy has zero concept of how to handle team psychology. No wonder his room was a cluster**** last season. It will get only worse going forward.

He was waived so he can go to Belleville, play some games and get it together. What the frig is wrong with that? Condon knows he has stunk this year and probably welcomes the two weeks in the AHL.

 

[danielpalfredsson]

Meh, its a bad contract but hardly crippling...

For a normal team, this contract would not be crippling.

With a budget team, every mistake is magnified because of how much of an effect it has.

Every team has their Condon and Burrows type contracts. There are even a handful of teams with Ryan type contracts. For most of those teams,.they aren't as big of a deal as here where a few bad contracts can mess up our roster flexibility

I think the people who say we should not pay non-stars due to the risk of bad contracts might be on to something. But if that's our approach, it means guys like Dzingel, Pageau, Tierney, etc shouldn't be retained either long term.

 

[BondraTime]

For a normal team, this contract would not be crippling.

With a budget team, every mistake is magnified because of how much of an effect it has.

Every team has their Condon and Burrows type contracts. There are even a handful of teams with Ryan type contracts. For most of those teams,.they aren't as big of a deal as here where a few bad contracts can mess up our roster flexibility

I think the people who say we should not pay non-stars due to the risk of bad contracts might be on to something. But if that's our approach, it means guys like Dzingel, Pageau, Tierney, etc shouldn't be retained either long term.

It's insane how obvious this is, and how management seem to never follow along.

 

[swiftwin]

It is unique when the players you are waiving are supposed to be the key personnel you signed for long contracts.

Smith and Condon are key players?

 

[solidprospect]

Any chance Mckenna is called up, if Condon clears, have never seen him play.

 

[Joeyjoejoe]

Getting confidence back implies that you were good before.

He was never good to begin with, he caught a lightning in a bottle once, and even then he was posting average goalie #s. So of course we continue to reward short term success with long term commitment without ever thinking about the future.

 

[Engineer]

Boo

 

[topshelf15]

For a normal team, this contract would not be crippling.

With a budget team, every mistake is magnified because of how much of an effect it has.

Every team has their Condon and Burrows type contracts. There are even a handful of teams with Ryan type contracts. For most of those teams,.they aren't as big of a deal as here where a few bad contracts can mess up our roster flexibility

I think the people who say we should not pay non-stars due to the risk of bad contracts might be on to something. But if that's our approach, it means guys like Dzingel, Pageau, Tierney, etc shouldn't be retained either long term.

This is so much the issue,TY DP....Us having to take a huge monster deal with Phaneuf to rid ourselves of dead money,when we could have just let it ride in the AHL or in the pressbox...But money in for money out ...

 

[BondraTime]

Hopefully it's not another Smith situation and they actually send him down.

 

[Taluss]

Does anybody think he will get claimed? I can’t see it

 

[BondraTime]

Does anybody think he will get claimed? I can’t see it

0 chance.

On another note, the combined age of our goaltenders is now 72

 

[BonHoonLayneCornell]

Getting confidence back implies that you were good before.

He was never good to begin with, he caught a lightning in a bottle once, and even then he was posting average goalie #s. So of course we continue to reward short term success with long term commitment without ever thinking about the future.

Only for the wrong players though lol

 

[Qward]

reset the clock?

 

[stempniaksen]

Any chance Mckenna is called up, if Condon clears, have never seen him play.

Seems like the obvious move, even though McKenna probably isn't any better than Condon (granted, at least his confidence isn't completely shot).

Should be interesting to hear if the team is sniffing around goalies outside the organization. Unfortunately it doesn't sound like it, as they're making this sound more like a conditioning stint.

 

[Qward]

Seems like the obvious move, even though McKenna probably isn't any better than Condon (granted, at least his confidence isn't completely shot).

Should be interesting to hear if the team is sniffing around goalies outside the organization. Unfortunately it doesn't sound like it, as they're making this sound more like a conditioning stint.

2.5 M vs 700k

We know why decisions were made

 

[BondraTime]

Seems like the obvious move, even though McKenna probably isn't any better than Condon (granted, at least his confidence isn't completely shot).

Should be interesting to hear if the team is sniffing around goalies outside the organization. Unfortunately it doesn't sound like it, as they're making this sound more like a conditioning stint.

There is no chance we will be burying a guy with ~5 million dollars left on his contract in the AHL. We couldn't even finish 1 season with Hammond and had to give up a 3rd to get rid of him.

 

[Joeyjoejoe]

Only for the wrong players though lol

If you have proven that you have been consistently good for many years you get shipped out ie Turris, Karlsson, Alfie, Spezza etc.

If you have a decent couple of months or a year overachieving, you get rewarded a multi year contract ie Greening, Smith, Condon etc.

 

[BonHoonLayneCornell]

If you have proven that you have been consistently good for many years you get shipped out ie Turris, Karlsson, Alfie, Spezza etc.

If you have a decent couple of months or a year overachieving, you get rewarded a multi year contract ie Greening, Smith, Condon etc.

Pretty much.

This is as much Dorion's mess as it is Melnyk's.

 

[Upgrayedd]

There is no chance we will be burying a guy with ~5 million dollars left on his contract in the AHL. We couldn't even finish 1 season with Hammond and had to give up a 3rd to get rid of him.

Agreed, have we ever had 1 way money in the minors under a Eugene Melnyk owned team? Thought it was part of the mission statement to be honest.

 

[stempniaksen]

Agreed, have we ever had 1 way money in the minors under a Eugene Melnyk owned team? Thought it was part of the mission statement to be honest.

Colin Greening. But that was many moons ago now.