Comparing todays stars to the past

[NJrocket24]

Probably has been done before but i looked a little and i'm still new....

I'm not that old and haven't seen many of the old greats in action, the oldest i get is about lemieux, brett hull, yzerman etc. 91-92, around there. I have a lot of history books and i'd like to mainly see what star players today remind them of past superstars or players alot.

my only example but have no proof is forsberg= slightly toned down mikita

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[Ogopogo*]

Probably has been done before but i looked a little and i'm still new....

I'm not that old and haven't seen many of the old greats in action, the oldest i get is about lemieux, brett hull, yzerman etc. 91-92, around there. I have a lot of history books and i'd like to mainly see what star players today remind them of past superstars or players alot.

my only example but have no proof is forsberg= slightly toned down mikita

Are you talking about style of play or quality of the player? As far as player quality goes, here is my list of the players who had the top 50 NHL careers on my rating system. Hope this helps.

1 Wayne Gretzky
2 Gordie Howe
3 Bobby Orr
4 Mario Lemieux
5 Eddie Shore
6 Ray Bourque
7 Jean Believeau
8 Bobby Hull
9 Maurice "Rocket" Richard
10 Phil Esposito
11 Stan Mikita
12 Doug Harvey
13 Guy Lafleur
14 Jaromir Jagr
15 Howie Morenz
16 Paul Coffey
17 Francis "King" Clancy
18 Leonard "Red" Kelly
19 Earl Seibert
20 Andy Bathgate
21 Bill Cowley
22 Bryan Trottier
23 Cy Denneny
24 Cecil " Babe" Dye
25 Marcel Dionne
26 Ted Kennedy
27 Syl Apps, Sr.
28 Elmer Lach
29 Bobby Clarke
30 Mike Bossy
31 Denis Potvin
32 Pierre Pilote
33 Larry Robinson
34 Nels Stewart
35 Milt Schmidt
36 Nicklas Lidstrom
37 Frank Boucher
38 Lionel Conacher
39 Joe Sakic
40 Harry Cameron
41 Brad Park
42 Mark Messier
43 Charlie Conacher
44 Ted Lindsay
45 Al MacInnis
46 Chris Chelios
47 Max Bentley
48 Steve Yzerman
49 Bill Cook
50 Bernie Geoffrion

 

[dok101]

Are you talking about style of play or quality of the player? As far as player quality goes, here is my list of the players who had the top 50 NHL careers on my rating system. Hope this helps.

1 Wayne Gretzky
2 Gordie Howe
3 Bobby Orr
4 Mario Lemieux
5 Eddie Shore
6 Ray Bourque
7 Jean Believeau
8 Bobby Hull
9 Maurice "Rocket" Richard
10 Phil Esposito
11 Stan Mikita
12 Doug Harvey
13 Guy Lafleur
14 Jaromir Jagr
15 Howie Morenz
16 Paul Coffey
17 Francis "King" Clancy
18 Leonard "Red" Kelly
19 Earl Seibert
20 Andy Bathgate
21 Bill Cowley
22 Bryan Trottier
23 Cy Denneny
24 Cecil " Babe" Dye
25 Marcel Dionne
26 Ted Kennedy
27 Syl Apps, Sr.
28 Elmer Lach
29 Bobby Clarke
30 Mike Bossy
31 Denis Potvin
32 Pierre Pilote
33 Larry Robinson
34 Nels Stewart
35 Milt Schmidt
36 Nicklas Lidstrom
37 Frank Boucher
38 Lionel Conacher
39 Joe Sakic
40 Harry Cameron
41 Brad Park
42 Mark Messier
43 Charlie Conacher
44 Ted Lindsay
45 Al MacInnis
46 Chris Chelios
47 Max Bentley
48 Steve Yzerman
49 Bill Cook
50 Bernie Geoffrion

The most prolific goal scorer in National Hockey League history at #30? I don't know about that. What is your "rating system?"

 

[Leaf Lander]

Ogopogo

expand your system lets see the top 100 and in 6 months do top 200

 

[Hockey Outsider]

NJrocket24, if you're interested in comparing players from today to those of the past, check out Iain Fyffe's fascinating article: http://www.puckerings.com/research/compare.html where he analyzes comparisons (good and bad) of today's and yesterday's stars.

Also, that's a very good list of the top 50 players. Nice to see a list with some underrated (but definitely deserving) defensemen, like Seibert and Cameron.

 

[chooch*]

Probably has been done before but i looked a little and i'm still new....

I'm not that old and haven't seen many of the old greats in action, the oldest i get is about lemieux, brett hull, yzerman etc. 91-92, around there. I have a lot of history books and i'd like to mainly see what star players today remind them of past superstars or players alot.

my only example but have no proof is forsberg= slightly toned down mikita

kid, i've seen them all since 71:

1.orr and lemieux
3.hasek
4.lafleur
5.jagr
6.trottier
7.forsberg
8.espo phil
9.bourque
10.clarke
11.Potvin
12. Dryden
13.Larry
14. Roy
15.one of Ovechkin,spezza,kovalchuk,crosby etc

there's your top.

overrated: sittler, 99, bossy

 

[KOVALEV10*]

kid, i've seen them all since 71:

1.orr and lemieux
3.hasek
4.lafleur
5.jagr
6.trottier
7.forsberg
8.espo phil
9.bourque
10.clarke
11.Potvin
12. Dryden
13.Larry
14. Roy
15.one of Ovechkin,spezza,kovalchuk,crosby etc

there's your top.

overrated: sittler, 99, bossy

Chooch... what about Dionne, Yzerman, Kurri, Sakic?

 

[Zine]

kid, i've seen them all since 71:

1.orr and lemieux
3.hasek
4.lafleur
5.jagr
6.trottier
7.forsberg
8.espo phil
9.bourque
10.clarke
11.Potvin
12. Dryden
13.Larry
14. Roy
15.one of Ovechkin,spezza,kovalchuk,crosby etc

there's your top.

overrated: sittler, 99, bossy

Gretz may be overrated, but not in the top 15?

 

[Sens Rule]

Gretz may be overrated, but not in the top 15?

Chooch lives in a fantasy world where not only Orr, Howe, Lemieux are better than Gretz.... (possibly legitimate arguments) but Forsberg, Trottier and Clarke and Larry Robinson are far better than than Gretzky.

 

[chooch*]

Chooch... what about Dionne, Yzerman, Kurri, Sakic?

Good points, but who would I move? The 15th position I suppose.

Anyway these are the best I saw, Park, Lapointe, Ratelle, too.

Booray was overrated also and with the right protection Sullivan or Cassels or even Dr Gregg would have potted 3000 points too so that doesnt mean much.

 

[Ogopogo*]

Ogopogo

expand your system lets see the top 100 and in 6 months do top 200

Since you asked, here is my top 150:

1 Wayne Gretzky
2 Gordie Howe
3 Bobby Orr
4 Mario Lemieux
5 Eddie Shore*
6 Ray Bourque
7 Jean Believeau
8 Bobby Hull
9 Maurice "Rocket" Richard
10 Phil Esposito
11 Stan Mikita
12 Doug Harvey
13 Guy Lafleur
14 Jaromir Jagr
15 Howie Morenz*
16 Paul Coffey
17 Francis "King" Clancy*
18 Leonard "Red" Kelly*
19 Earl Seibert*
20 Andy Bathgate
21 Bill Cowley
22 Bryan Trottier
23 Cy Denneny*
24 Cecil " Babe" Dye*
25 Marcel Dionne
26 Ted Kennedy
27 Syl Apps, Sr.
28 Elmer Lach
29 Bobby Clarke
30 Mike Bossy
31 Denis Potvin
32 Pierre Pilote
33 Larry Robinson
34 Nels Stewart*
35 Milt Schmidt
36 Nicklas Lidstrom
37 Frank Boucher*
38 Lionel Conacher*
39 Joe Sakic
40 Harry Cameron*
41 Brad Park
42 Mark Messier
43 Charlie Conacher
44 Ted Lindsay
45 Al MacInnis
46 Chris Chelios
47 Max Bentley
48 Steve Yzerman
49 Bill Cook*
50 Bernie Geoffrion
51 Doug Bentley
52 Scott Stevens
53 Aurel Joliat*
54 Bill Gadsby
55 Edouard "Newsy" Lalonde*
56 Brett Hull
57 Aubrey "Dit" Clapper*
58 Rod Langway
59 Sprague Cleghorn*
60 Brian Leetch
61 Teemu Selanne
62 Jack Stewart*
63 Borje Salming
64 Sid Abel
65 Ebbie Goodfellow*
66 Adam Oates
67 Hector "Toe" Blake
68 Marty Barry
69 Frank Nighbor*
70 Mark Howe
71 Gord Drillon
72 Tim Horton
73 Chris Pronger
74 Norm Ullman
75 Frank Mahovlich
76 Peter Forsberg
77 David "Sweeney" Schriner
78 Markus Naslund
79 Roy Conacher
80 Harry "Punch" Broadbent*
81 Joe Malone*
82 Ivan "Ching" Johnson*
83 Bill Quackenbush*
84 Doug Gilmour
85 Peter Stastny
86 Dale Hawerchuk
87 Jarome Iginla
88 Pavel Bure
89 Ken Reardon*
90 George Boucher*
91 Reg Noble*
92 Henri Richard
93 Dickie Moore
94 Jacques Laperriere
95 Eric Lindros
96 Denis Savard
97 Clarence "Hap" Day*
98 Syd Howe
99 Sylvio Mantha*
100 Serge Savard
101 Guy Lapointe
102 Bryan Hextall, Sr.
103 Reg "Hooley" Smith
104 Art Coulter
105 Rob Blake
106 Emile "Butch" Bouchard*
107 Jean Ratelle
108 Jack Darragh*
109 Cecil Dillon
110 Ace Bailey*
111 Marcel Pronovost
112 JC Tremblay
113 Doug Wilson
114 Phil Watson
115 Fern Flaman
116 Harvey "Busher" Jackson
117 Ken Randall*
118 Bert Olmstead
119 Ron Francis
120 Alex Delvecchio
121 Walter "Babe" Pratt*
122 Larry Murphy
123 Buddy O'Connor
124 Paul Kariya
125 Sergei Fedorov
126 Albert "Babe" Seibert*
127 Gaye Stewart
128 Pat Lafontaine
129 Tom Anderson
130 Odie Cleghorn*
131 Paul Thompson
132 Eddie Gerard*
133 Gilbert Perreault
134 Lynn Patrick
135 Martin St. Louis
136 Ralph "Cooney" Weiland*
137 Jari Kurri
138 Billy Burch*
139 Joe Primeau
140 Billy Boucher*
141 Dave Keon
142 Paul Ronty
143 William "Flash" Hollett*
144 Bert Corbeau*
145 Lawrence "Baldy" Northcott
146 Carl Brewer
147 Clint Smith
148 Bill White
149 Pat Stapleton
150 Corb Denneny*
151 Phil Housley
152 George "Goldie" Prodgers*
153 John LeClair
154 Tom Johnson

 

[God Bless Canada]

Ogopogo,

I see a noticeable change to your list. What changed? What's the new criteria? I see some players have risen (Yzerman is in the top 50, a more appropriate place), while others have fallen (Kurri is down to 137). I'm guessing the most important hockey, the playoffs, still doesn't factor much into the rankings. (Since Kurri, one of the better clutch wingers ever, is 137th, and other clutch players are out of the top 100).

 

[Ogopogo*]

Ogopogo,

I see a noticeable change to your list. What changed? What's the new criteria? I see some players have risen (Yzerman is in the top 50, a more appropriate place), while others have fallen (Kurri is down to 137). I'm guessing the most important hockey, the playoffs, still doesn't factor much into the rankings. (Since Kurri, one of the better clutch wingers ever, is 137th, and other clutch players are out of the top 100).

One of the fundamental changes I made was to eliminate the post season all-star selections. These gave players like John LeClair (LW) a distinct advantage over players like Steve Yzerman (C). Rather than using post-season all stars, I am now using the top 7 finishers in the Hart Trophy voting - not just the winner and runner up. I think this gives a more accurate view of who the greats really are.

As far as playoffs go, the only information I am currently using is the Conn Smythe trophy. I have compiled my list of greatest playoff scorers but, that still hurts players who were stuck on bad teams for their entire career (i.e. Marcel Dionne). So, to this point, I have not incorporated playoff performance other than Conn Smythe awards.

 

[God Bless Canada]

One of the fundamental changes I made was to eliminate the post season all-star selections. These gave players like John LeClair (LW) a distinct advantage over players like Steve Yzerman (C). Rather than using post-season all stars, I am now using the top 7 finishers in the Hart Trophy voting - not just the winner and runner up. I think this gives a more accurate view of who the greats really are.

As far as playoffs go, the only information I am currently using is the Conn Smythe trophy. I have compiled my list of greatest playoff scorers but, that still hurts players who were stuck on bad teams for their entire career (i.e. Marcel Dionne). So, to this point, I have not incorporated playoff performance other than Conn Smythe awards.

A very smart move with eliminating the post-season all-stars. The discrepency between centre and the other two positions is glaring. IMO, there are nine centres who belong in the top 25-30 all-time: Gretzky, Lemieux, Beliveau, Esposito, Trottier, Clarke, Mikita, Morenz and Messier. There are only three LWs who are veritable top-50 all-time players - Hull, Lindsay and Mahovalich. Others deserve consideration (Johnny Bucyk, for example), but only three would be consensus. (I think the THN top 50 had roughly a dozen Cs before the No. 3 LW, Mahovalic, who came in around 36 or 37.

I wouldn't rank Dionne in the top 25. Yes, he had some great seasons, and was on some dog teams in his career, but he rarely, if ever, elevated his play in the post-season. It's a very big strike against him when discussing the all-time greats, and a big reason why he hovered around 40th in the THN top 50.

Playoffs count, big-time, and while Dionne can't be faulted for his lack of playoff series wins, since he was never on a top team, you can fault him for consistently not raising his play to another level. (Something almost all of the all-time greats, from Gretzky to Esposito, were able to do).

 

[Sens Rule]

Since you asked, here is my top 150:

1 Wayne Gretzky
2 Gordie Howe
3 Bobby Orr
4 Mario Lemieux
5 Eddie Shore*
6 Ray Bourque
7 Jean Believeau
8 Bobby Hull
9 Maurice "Rocket" Richard
10 Phil Esposito
11 Stan Mikita
12 Doug Harvey
13 Guy Lafleur
14 Jaromir Jagr
15 Howie Morenz*
16 Paul Coffey
17 Francis "King" Clancy*
18 Leonard "Red" Kelly*
19 Earl Seibert*
20 Andy Bathgate
21 Bill Cowley
22 Bryan Trottier
23 Cy Denneny*
24 Cecil " Babe" Dye*
25 Marcel Dionne
26 Ted Kennedy
27 Syl Apps, Sr.
28 Elmer Lach
29 Bobby Clarke
30 Mike Bossy
31 Denis Potvin
32 Pierre Pilote
33 Larry Robinson
34 Nels Stewart*
35 Milt Schmidt
36 Nicklas Lidstrom
37 Frank Boucher*
38 Lionel Conacher*
39 Joe Sakic
40 Harry Cameron*
41 Brad Park
42 Mark Messier
43 Charlie Conacher
44 Ted Lindsay
45 Al MacInnis
46 Chris Chelios
47 Max Bentley
48 Steve Yzerman
49 Bill Cook*
50 Bernie Geoffrion
51 Doug Bentley
52 Scott Stevens
53 Aurel Joliat*
54 Bill Gadsby
55 Edouard "Newsy" Lalonde*
56 Brett Hull
57 Aubrey "Dit" Clapper*
58 Rod Langway
59 Sprague Cleghorn*
60 Brian Leetch
61 Teemu Selanne
62 Jack Stewart*
63 Borje Salming
64 Sid Abel
65 Ebbie Goodfellow*
66 Adam Oates
67 Hector "Toe" Blake
68 Marty Barry
69 Frank Nighbor*
70 Mark Howe
71 Gord Drillon
72 Tim Horton
73 Chris Pronger
74 Norm Ullman
75 Frank Mahovlich
76 Peter Forsberg
77 David "Sweeney" Schriner
78 Markus Naslund
79 Roy Conacher
80 Harry "Punch" Broadbent*
81 Joe Malone*
82 Ivan "Ching" Johnson*
83 Bill Quackenbush*
84 Doug Gilmour
85 Peter Stastny
86 Dale Hawerchuk
87 Jarome Iginla
88 Pavel Bure
89 Ken Reardon*
90 George Boucher*
91 Reg Noble*
92 Henri Richard
93 Dickie Moore
94 Jacques Laperriere
95 Eric Lindros
96 Denis Savard
97 Clarence "Hap" Day*
98 Syd Howe
99 Sylvio Mantha*
100 Serge Savard
101 Guy Lapointe
102 Bryan Hextall, Sr.
103 Reg "Hooley" Smith
104 Art Coulter
105 Rob Blake
106 Emile "Butch" Bouchard*
107 Jean Ratelle
108 Jack Darragh*
109 Cecil Dillon
110 Ace Bailey*
111 Marcel Pronovost
112 JC Tremblay
113 Doug Wilson
114 Phil Watson
115 Fern Flaman
116 Harvey "Busher" Jackson
117 Ken Randall*
118 Bert Olmstead
119 Ron Francis
120 Alex Delvecchio
121 Walter "Babe" Pratt*
122 Larry Murphy
123 Buddy O'Connor
124 Paul Kariya
125 Sergei Fedorov
126 Albert "Babe" Seibert*
127 Gaye Stewart
128 Pat Lafontaine
129 Tom Anderson
130 Odie Cleghorn*
131 Paul Thompson
132 Eddie Gerard*
133 Gilbert Perreault
134 Lynn Patrick
135 Martin St. Louis
136 Ralph "Cooney" Weiland*
137 Jari Kurri
138 Billy Burch*
139 Joe Primeau
140 Billy Boucher*
141 Dave Keon
142 Paul Ronty
143 William "Flash" Hollett*
144 Bert Corbeau*
145 Lawrence "Baldy" Northcott
146 Carl Brewer
147 Clint Smith
148 Bill White
149 Pat Stapleton
150 Corb Denneny*
151 Phil Housley
152 George "Goldie" Prodgers*
153 John LeClair
154 Tom Johnson

I don't know about some of these older players but Kurri at 137 is pretty low. He is better than Lafontaine, Martin St. Louis, (one great season and he outranks Kurri?!?), and many more. Kurri is a top 50 player.

 

[Czech Your Math]

Good list

From a purely scoring standpoint, if you adjust for league scoring level, the following were the best scorers at their peak:

Lemieux & Gretzky
..............
Jagr & Esposito
..............
Orr leads the next group

Amazing for Orr to be #5 as a defenseman.

As far as career scoring:

Gretzky & Howe
Jagr, Messier & Esposito

 

[KOVALEV10*]

From a purely scoring standpoint, if you adjust for league scoring level, the following were the best scorers at their peak:

Lemieux & Gretzky
..............
Jagr & Esposito
..............
Orr leads the next group

Amazing for Orr to be #5 as a defenseman.

As far as career scoring:

Gretzky & Howe
Jagr, Messier & Esposito

Lafleur was one of the best at his peak as well. I would choose him before Jagr and Espo.

 

[James Ownz Harper*]

Are these lists just for scoring or what? Messier at 42? Come on...top 10 at least.

 

[GuloGulo]

How do you motivate putting Selanne ahead of Fedorov? Fedorov has been more or less a PPG scorer both in playoffs and regular seasons for his entire career, a multiple trophy winner, all star, cup winner (important cog in every one of them, even the one he slipped in late on)?

Kariya a better career than Fedorov? No.
Naslund a better career than Fedorov? Never, not even close.

 

[pappyline]

Interesting attempt to rate top 150 players but why & how. I expect I am older than you and I have been watching since the mid 50's. Still I have only seen 31 of your top 50 play. Admire that you have a lot of old time players on your list but don't understand your selection methods. Based on what I have seen, Greyzy is not #1, Bobby Hull belongs in the top 5 and Phil Esposito does not belong in the top 10.

 

[Rather Gingerly 1*]

From the Habs:

Saku Koivu kind of reminds me of Ralph Backstrom.
Chris Chelios a little of Guy Lapointe.
Nicklas Sundstrom - Jim Roberts.
Jose Theodore - Rogie Vachon

 

[jacketracket*]

Since you asked, here is my top 150:

You've clearly put alot of research into this, and I'm not seriously questioning it --- but no Sid Abel in the top 154?

 

[Ogopogo*]

You've clearly put alot of research into this, and I'm not seriously questioning it --- but no Sid Abel in the top 154?

Check out the #64 slot.

 

[Ogopogo*]

Are these lists just for scoring or what? Messier at 42? Come on...top 10 at least.

My GREATEST POINT SCORERS list goes something like this:


1 Wayne Gretzky
2 Gordie Howe
3 Mario Lemieux
4 Phil Esposito
5 Stan Mikita
6 Maurice Richard
7 Bobby Hull
8 Cy Denneny
9 Jaromir Jagr
10 Jean Beliveau
11 Andy Bathgate
12 Bobby Orr
13 Marcel Dionne
14 Howie Morenz
15 Ted Lindsay
16 Guy Lafleur
17 Babe Dye
18 Bill Cowley
19 Mike Bossy
20 Joe Sakic
21 Doug Bentley
22 Max Bentley
23 Bill Cook
24 Charlie Conacher
25 Newsy Lalonde
26 Bernie Geoffrion
27 Frank Boucher
28 Joe Malone
29 Elmer Lach
30 Peter Stastny
31 Harvey Jackson
32 Sweeney Schriner
33 Nels Stewart
34 Aurel Joliat
35 Peter Forsberg
36 Toe Blake
37 Marty Barry
38 Syl Apps, Sr.
39 Bryan Trottier
40 Teemu Selanne
41 Norm Ullman
42 Paul Coffey
43 Sid Abel
44 Bobby Clarke
45 Jari Kurri
46 Markus Naslund
47 Mark Messier
48 Jean Ratelle
49 Steve Yzerman
50 Adam Oates
51 Paul Kariya
52 Gordie Drillon
53 Milt Schmidt
54 Joe Primeau
55 Dickie Moore
56 Lynn Patrick
57 Frank Mahovlich
58 Frank Nighbor
59 Denis Savard
60 Pavel Bure
61 Bryan Hextall
62 Brett Hull
63 Billy Boucher
64 Ace Bailey
65 Henri Richard
66 Ken Hodge
67 Gilbert Perreault
68 Clint Smith
69 Mark Recchi
70 Paul Thompson
71 Alex Delvecchio
72 Gaye Stewart
73 Dale Hawerchuk
74 Roy Conacher
75 Reg Noble
76 Jack Adams
77 Larry Aurie
78 Bronco Horvath
79 Eric Lindros
80 Ron Francis
81 Corb Denneny
82 Odie Cleghorn
83 Carson Cooper
84 Todd Bertuzzi
85 Bert Olmstead
86 Ed Litzenberger
87 Rick MacLeish
88 Doug Gilmour
89 Lorne Carr
90 Billy Taylor
91 Bobby Rousseau
92 Paul Ronty
93 Punch Broadbent
94 Cooney Weiland
95 Reg Smith
96 Herb Cain
97 Rod Gilbert
98 Jacques Lemaire
99 Patrick Elias
100 Jarome Iginla
101 Martin St. Louis
102 Ted Kennedy
103 Johnny Bucyk
104 Bernie Nicholls
Kevin Stevens
Pat Lafontaine
Sergei Fedorov
Buddy O'Connor
Bobby Bauer
Cecil Dillon
Syd Howe
Ebbie Goodfellow
Harry Cameron
Dick Irvin
115 Woody Dumart
Kenny Wharram
Ilya Kovalchuk
John LeClair
119 Dit Clapper
Baldy Northcott
Don Grosso
Earl Reibel
Wayne Cashman
Steve Shutt
Darryl Sittler
Kent Nilsson
Michel Goulet
Mats Sundin
Joe Thornton
Alexei Zhamnov
131 George Boucher
Jimmy Herberts
George Hay
Phil Goyette
Pete Mahovlich
Barry Pederson
Luc Robitaille
138 Didier Pitre
139 Frank Fredrickson
Andy Blair
Bill Thoms
Georges Mantha
Phil Watson
Carl Liscombe
Don Raleigh
Vic Hadfield
Bill Barber
Denis Potvin
Dennis Maruk
Milan Hejduk
151 Bill Mosienko
152 Jack Darragh
Paul Haynes
Art Chapman
Wally Hergesheimer
Red Kelly
Mike Rogers
Pierre Turgeon
159 Billy Burch
Hec Kilrea
Sid Smith
Red Sullivan
Walt Tkaczuk
Pierre Larouche
Bob MacMillan
Dave Taylor
Alexei Kovalev
Jason Allison
Martin Straka
Rob Brown
John Cullen
Marian Hossa
173 Bud Poile
Jim Conacher
Tod Sloan
Tim Young
Jeremy Roenick
Pavol Demitra
179 Doc Romnes
Art Gagne
Alf Skinner
Mickey Roach
Neil Colville
Claude Provost
Yvan Cournoyer
Rick Martin
Guy Chouinard
Dino Ciccarelli
Theoren Fleury
Zigmund Palffy
Alexei Yashin
192 Bun Cook
Dave Trottier
Herb Lewis
Johnny Gagnon
Bob Gracie
Tom Anderson
Charlie Simmer
Owen Nolan
Tony Amonte
201 Ab DeMarco, Sr.
202 Joe Mullen
Syl Apps, Jr.
King Clancy
Goldie Prodgers
Sprague Cleghorn
Metro Prystai
Don McKenny
Fleming Mackell
Ralph Backstrom
Murray Oliver
Rene Robert
Terry O'Reilly
214 Joe Carveth
215 Glen Murray
Daniel Alfredsson
Corey Stillman
Harry Oliver
Normie Himes
Red Berenson
JP Parise
John Ogrodnick
Alexander Mogilny
224 Amos Arbour
Cully Wilson
Harry Watson
Billy Reay
Gus Bodnar
Mickey Redmond

 

[pappyline]

"My GREATEST SCORERS list goes something like this:"

Ogopogo. Amazed that you took the time to rate over 200 players. You really need to get out more. This list makes even less sense than your list of 150 best careers. Presume you had a system of some sort to do it and am curious to hear what it is. By te way does the term scorer mean points or goals.