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if there was a combined draft with this year's and last year's draft picks, how would you rank the top 20? i'm just curious as to see how the prospects would stack up against each other.
if there was a combined draft with this year's and last year's draft picks, how would you rank the top 20? i'm just curious as to see how the prospects would stack up against each other.
I'll give it a shot:
1) Sidney Crosby
2) Erik Johnson
3) Jack Johnson
4) Gilbert Brule
5) Jonathan Toews
6) Phil Kessel
7) Nicklas Backstrom
8) Marc Staal
9) Luc Bourdon
10) Bobby Ryan
11) Jordan Staal
12) Anze Kopitar
13) Benoit Pouliot
14) Kyle Okposo
15) Devin Setoguchi
16) Ryan Parent
17) Derrick Brassard
18) Bryan Little
19) Jack Skille
20) Marek Zagrapan
18)
Bourdon ahead of Jordan Staal, Bobby Ryan and Benoit Pouliot???
Bourdon ahead of Jordan Staal, Bobby Ryan and Benoit Pouliot???
and despite Ryan being awful, he was team USA's leading scorer after the Norway game(tied with Kessel I think)Well, IMO, Staal and Pouliot are very, very overrated. They are some of the rawest prospects out there. Pouliot had a very poor showing at the World Juniors and Jordan Staal was basically a no-show in the Memorial Cup. Bobby Ryan I think was a tough desicion because he too was awful in the World Juniors. I think that the World Juniors are the best place to judge where prospects are at in terms of development. None of these players have really proven themselves outside of the CHL, whereas Bourdon was named to the tournament all-star team in the World Juniors, and has played excellent at the international stage. He would have made the Canucks squad last year too, if it wasn't for the new CBA and it's UFA policy.
and despite Ryan being awful, he was team USA's leading scorer after the Norway game(tied with Kessel I think)
I'll give it a shot:
1) Sidney Crosby
2) Erik Johnson
3) Jack Johnson
4) Gilbert Brule
5) Jonathan Toews
6) Phil Kessel
7) Nicklas Backstrom
8) Marc Staal
9) Luc Bourdon
10) Bobby Ryan
11) Jordan Staal
12) Anze Kopitar
13) Benoit Pouliot
14) Kyle Okposo
15) Devin Setoguchi
16) Ryan Parent
17) Derrick Brassard
18) Bryan Little
19) Jack Skille
20) Marek Zagrapan
I'd take Kessel over Bourdon, Staal, Backstrom and Pouliot for sure.MMM here's what I think:
1. Sidney Crosby
2. Eric Johnson
3. Jack Johnson
4. Jordan Stall
5. Benoit Pouliot
6. Nic Bakstrom
7. Gilbert Brule
8. Jonathan Toews
9. Marc Stall
10. Luc Bordon
11. Phil Kessel
12. Bobby Ryan
13. Derek Brassard
14. Carey Price
15.Anze Kopitar
16. Ryan Parent
17. Jack Skille
18.James Sheppard
19. Kyle Okposo
20. Bryan Little
How is Bobby Ryan slipping so far down on everyones list? Ryan would definitely have to be in the top five.
the guy averaged 3 ppg before the WJC's he clearly has outstanding offensive ability. That flew under the radar, while Wolski who did the exact same thing got his *** kissed left and right.Just because he was picked #2 in 2005 doesn't mean he was the second best player taken then(that was just Anaheim's opinion, personally I think JJ was to good to give up). Most scouting reports had him ranked 5 last year. That being said i would say i like him better then Pouliot.
I don't think he did anything this year to vastly improve his stock(which would have been top 4-5 last year) unlike let's say Brule or M Staal, although he still is a very good prospect. I had him #9 on my last after the top 5 of thise years draft, Crosby, and 2 of the guys rated ahead of him on most draft boards.
Basically i think Ryan will be a good player but the guys i listed above him have potential to be just as good if not beter.
the guy averaged 3 ppg before the WJC's he clearly has outstanding offensive ability. That flew under the radar, while Wolski who did the exact same thing got his *** kissed left and right.
But that 3 month period shows he absolutely has the ability to be an oustanding offensive player. If it's a matter of conditioning I won't be too worried about him.I said he was a very good prospect didn't I. Being #9 is nothing to sneeze at either, i just thought the top 5 from this draft year was very strong and there was 3 guys from 2005 who were better. There is a good chance that he will have a better carreer then somebody i rated higher, but that being said thee is a good chance that somebody in my "other 10" list or that i didn't even mention will have a better career then him.
But that's my opinion and in the big picture it means poop.
Your 3 PPG arguement doesn't hold up because he ended up with 1.5PPg at the end of the season meaning he went into a huge slump. Ryan had amazing stats for a 17 year old, but the problem is that his numbers didn't improve that much which (rightly or wrongly) i feel might be a slight knock against him(although for arguement sake his stats were still very good for an 18 year old).
I'm just saying, Wolski practically did the exact same thing Ryan did, and he got props left and right. Whereas Ryan got no recognition at all for being near the top of the OHL scoring list for much of the season..
Price won't be getting any sort of recognition until he plays for a winning team, which he hasn't had the possibility to do so far in his Junior career in Tri-City. Hopefully he gets traded to some contending team in the 'Dub and he can prove his worth to everyone who considers him to be an average goalie prospect.
you can also add that Wolski was drafted by a team who had close to zero depth in terms of prospects, if a Latendresse or a Kostytsin would of been drafted by say the Devils, they'd be freackin stars in the makingboredmale said:....the Wolski love i think it's a case of a player who is better then the position he was drafted(ie late first round). Ryan was picked #2 so he would be put under a bigger microscope. I think the common concensuis here is that as good a prospect Ryan is, JJ should have been #2.