Post-Game Talk: Cole's Plus/Minus: Pens vs. Vegas....what was that?!

[mpp9]

Many a coach may have rode Fleury or put Murray back in. Not been able to compensate for Sid missing a game, etc.

Rutherford did some major surgery. But his roster choices have also been determential in three of his five seasons here. Reaves, Ehrhoff, Johnson, Hunwick, etc.

I’m not sure Sullivan got outcoached last year as much as players were injured and killed our chance after 9 consecutive series.

A GM's job is a hell of alot harder than a coach's IMO.

Sullivan's best accomplishment is that 2nd Cup winning back to back without Letang. And I'd say that was just as much of a case of our star players playing out of their minds.

 

[Gurglesons]

A GM's job is a hell of alot harder than a coach's IMO.

Sullivan's best accomplishment is that 2nd Cup winning back to back without Letang. And I'd say that was just as much of a case of our star players playing out of their minds.

I guess? When a GM gets a core of Crosby, Malkin, Letang and MAF with Murray and Jake in the wings it makes his job a lot easier. Not to take away from the Hornqvist, Kessel and Schultz trades.

 

[Ogrezilla]

I guess? When a GM gets a core of Crosby, Malkin, Letang and MAF with Murray and Jake in the wings it makes his job a lot easier. Not to take away from the Hornqvist, Kessel and Schultz trades.

The Daley and Hags deals were huge too. And realizing our depth wasn't working and clearing room for Rust, Sheary, and Kuhn. I think JR deserves a ton of credit for that 16 Cup.

 

[Gurglesons]

The Daley and Hags deals were huge too. And realizing our depth wasn't working and clearing room for Rust, Sheary, and Kuhn. I think JR deserves a ton of credit for that 16 Cup.

Like I said JR deserves credit for the two cup wins. He also deserves a lot more shit for how our D is currently composed and the way he’s adjusted the roster in the other three years.

 

[mpp9]

I mean, JR knows what the issues are. He's tried to upgrade the defense as he went after McD at the deadline and Montour before getting Pettersson.

JR inherited a great core but not exactly a ton of assets to play with. He was able to build quite a supporting cast given those constraints. Struggling player swaps. Not overpaying for Kessel. Signing guys to very reasonable deals.

I don't disagree that the JJ contract is horrendous but obviously they see him as valuable to a team trying to win a Cup. I'll give it a playoff run to see what he can do.

If Maatta was a reliable 2nd pairing defender and could help our transition game, JJ and Oleksiak are afterthoughts.

 

[Ugene Magic]

The Daley and Hags deals were huge too. And realizing our depth wasn't working and clearing room for Rust, Sheary, and Kuhn. I think JR deserves a ton of credit for that 16 Cup.

I don't think they cleared room for them more than there was no more options to bring guys in past what they already did. They were the fillers after he set each line up, or 3rd wheels at the time.

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June 27, 2014

Patric Hornqvist Nick Spaling [TBODY] [/TBODY]

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Philip Samuelsson [TBODY] [/TBODY]

December 5, 2014

Rob Klinkhammer 2016 conditional 5th round pick (if Samuelsson plays 40 or more games with Coyotes in 2014-15 [TBODY] [/TBODY]

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David Perron [TBODY] [/TBODY]

January 2, 2015

Rob Klinkhammer 2015 1st round pick [TBODY] [/TBODY]

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Marcel Goc [TBODY] [/TBODY]

January 27, 2015

Maxim Lapierre [TBODY] [/TBODY]

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Daniel Winnik [TBODY] [/TBODY]

February 25, 2015

Zach Sill 2015 4th round pick 2016 2nd round pick [TBODY] [/TBODY]

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Simon Despres [TBODY] [/TBODY]

March 2, 2015

Ben Lovejoy [TBODY] [/TBODY]

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Ian Cole [TBODY] [/TBODY]

March 2, 2015

Robert Bortuzzo [TBODY] [/TBODY]

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Phil Kessel Tim Erixon Tyler Biggs 2016 conditional 2nd round pick [TBODY] [/TBODY]

July 1, 2015

Kasperi Kapanen Scott Harrington Nick Spaling 2016 conditional 1st round pick 2016 3rd round pick [TBODY] [/TBODY]

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Nick Bonino Adam Clendening 2016 2nd round pick [TBODY] [/TBODY]

July 28, 2015

Brandon Sutter 2016 condtional 3rd round pick [TBODY] [/TBODY]

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Rob Scuderi [TBODY] [/TBODY]

December 14, 2015

Trevor Daley [TBODY] [/TBODY]

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David Perron Adam Clendening [TBODY] [/TBODY]

January 16, 2016

Carl Hagelin [TBODY] [/TBODY]

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Justin Schultz [TBODY] [/TBODY]

February 27, 2016

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JR, deserves for saving this core from a huge meltdown let alone winning two cups. Same goes for Sully with that fresh take from looking in from the outside. Personally, all they needed was a mirror and a eye full of reality.

 

[Turin]

I think both guys have made mistakes but have done a really good job on the whole, and a lot of the things that have gone wrong can be attributed to shit happens and some of the things that worked out were pretty lucky

 

[Coach Travis]

As far as this game goes, the writing was on the wall. Pens played the night before in Arizona, VGK were coming off 4 days rest and playing at home. I didn't expect the Pens to win that game.

 

[ColePens]

Let's move the topic to the off day/off week thread.