Adam Michaels
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anyone knows what happened to him, he literally stopped producing...
He had a drop in production. But he's got two points so far tonight.
anyone knows what happened to him, he literally stopped producing...
Many Habs prospects playing in junior leagues are putting disappointing numbers so far. There was an article about this lately in LaPresse. Not sure what's up with that, but I'm also interested in reading people who have witnessed their play this season.Whats going on with him... he had a realy good start... his team seems to be putting 5-6 goals minimum a game and he can’t seem to be putting points anymore...
Hillis and mcshane are also bellow their last years productions. Their still young but it’s kinda disappointing!
Many Habs prospects playing in junior leagues are putting disappointing numbers so far. There was an article about this lately in LaPresse. Not sure what's up with that, but I'm also interested in reading people who have witnessed their play this season.
Many Habs prospects playing in junior leagues are putting disappointing numbers so far. There was an article about this lately in LaPresse. Not sure what's up with that, but I'm also interested in reading people who have witnessed their play this season.
Hillis, McShane, Fonstad, Houde all major disappointments for some so called 2nd round worthy picks.You mean the picks taken in the 3rd round or later?
Poehling, Brook, Fleury, Primeau, Kotkaniemi, Ylonen, Romanov, Olofsson, Harris, Stapley... are all have very good or decent years IMO.
Who's have disappointing numbers so far? Hillis, McShane, Ikonen?
I read that article and I laughed at the part where they said many players are having disappointing years. Expecting every single draft pick to show promise (especially 3rd round+ picks) is ridiculous.
Hillis, McShane, Fonstad, Houde all major disappointments for some so called 2nd round worthy picks.
Hillis, McShane, Fonstad, Houde all major disappointments for some so called 2nd round worthy picks.
Both ylonen and Olofsson are also struggling at Ikonen level. How can u write 'ikonen level' yet suggest ylonen is doing fine? Ikonen outproduced ylonen as a later round pick (58 vs 35)Well, they are not 2nd round picks and you have to expect some disappointments here and there. Kotkaniemi, Ylonen, Romanov, Olofsson make up for it. If we get 4 NHL players from last years draft, the focus should not be with the disappointments. It should be with who actually is showing promise. 4 NHL assets from any draft years is considered very good!
Regardless, it's early. I wouldn't say they are at Ikonen disappointment levels yet.
Romanov is playing as a regular in the second best league in the league, he's thriving as a 18 year old.Both ylonen and Olofsson are also struggling at Ikonen level. How can u write 'ikonen level' yet suggest ylonen is doing fine? Ikonen outproduced ylonen as a later round pick (58 vs 35)
And Romanov isnt exactly thriving. Harris slowed.down big time.
Imo disappointing returns for our non first round picks.
I watched them play. Have you?Romanov is playing as a regular in the second best league in the league, he's thriving as a 18 year old.
Olofsson is also doing really good.
You're stats watching hard here.
Both ylonen and Olofsson are also struggling at Ikonen level. How can u write 'ikonen level' yet suggest ylonen is doing fine? Ikonen outproduced ylonen as a later round pick (58 vs 35)
And Romanov isnt exactly thriving. Harris slowed.down big time.
Imo disappointing returns for our non first round picks.
Obviously not, thats why I just accused you of commenting on stats watching.I watched them play. Have you?
My point was don't call ikonen a disappointment when its too early to say esp after saying the newer prospects arent. Btw ylonen didnt crack the SHL roster. Hes in the liiga with a bad team.- Ikonen had 14 pts in 52 Liiga games last year (on loan from the SHL cause he was not good enough). He got hurt and hasn't played since.
- Olofsson is going to make team Sweden in an important center role. He has 6 pts in 16 games in the SHL.
- Ylonen has 6 pts in 21 Liiga games with 4 goals. I don't call this a disappointment. At least he made the SHL team
- Romanov has made the KHL as a 18 year old. He is learning on the job just like Kotkaniemi is. It's impressive how Romanov made that team as a 18 year old IMO.
- Harris is playing NCAA as a 18 year old. Most don't get this change at that age. He's got talent.
It's early but we need to consider what leagues these kids are playing in. Ikonen tried to make the SHL team and failed. It's not a huge disappointment considering he was 18 last year. However, he did struggle in the Liiga league as well. He also was disappointing in the world juniors.
In truth it's early for all of these kids. Ikonen has been disappointing due to stalled development and getting hurt didn't help. The other 4 from the past draft are not disappointing... very far from it! All of them are playing in leagues much stronger than the CHL where the other later round picks have not improved from their previous seasons.
Obviously not, thats why I just accused you of commenting on stats watching.
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My point was don't call ikonen a disappointment when its too early to say esp after saying the newer prospects arent. Btw ylonen didnt crack the SHL roster. Hes in the liiga with a bad team.
Ikonen looked great in the international scene vs players his age, actually both of them so far. I'm not worried about either fin just yetCorrect. Ylonen plays in the Liiga league and he as 4 goals after 21 games (I fixed it). Ikonen had 4 goals in 52 games. Ylonen is far from being a dissapointment.
As far as Ikonen. He is considered a disappointment but it's early yet. I still have some hope in him but his injury has seriously derailed his development.
Ikonen looked great in the international scene vs players his age, actually both of them so far. I'm not worried about either fin just yet
Stapely should play at the u20s! Let's lobby for canada to pick him up.At this stage, I have more faith in Ylonen vs Ikonen. But I have not given up on Ikonen. It just sucks he has a injury that derailed his development. Not even sure he even makes the Fins U20 team this year. Ylonen has great speed and goal scoring ability. I think we got something.
Regardless, the point here is focusing on disappointments with our 3rd round picks or later. It's almost like some think all prospects will pan out. It don't work like that. If you ask me at this stage, I'm more high on Kotkaniemi, Romanov, Ylonen, Olofsson vs the others. However, I won't be surprised is we get more disappointments/surprises. It's just way to early to predict.
Look at Stapley. He is off to a great NCAA start. 10 pts in 10 games with 3 goals.
The thing to consider is quantity and how this increases our probability of generating NHL assets.
Stapely should play at the u20s! Let's lobby for canada to pick him up.
Stapely is more of a Gaudreau lite type of player. Slick with the puck and really smart offensively with very good underrated skills. Not as fast, nor as skilled, or good but hes got amazing potential relative to a 7th rounder.To be honest, I don't know much about him. All I know is what I can see with his production. It's impressive to see him doing this so far and he was a 7th round pick! Team Canada worthy? How does our center depth look like? Or do you consider playing him RW?
Very curious to see how may of our prospects make the U20's! Devils had 7 prospects in the 17/18 tournament from what I recall. Would be a great story if the Habs can have 7 or more!
Possible players: Kotkaniemi, Poehling, Suzuki, Primeau, Brook, Olofsson, Ylonen, Romanov, Ikonen?, Stapley? I think 6 or 7 is a realistic expectation.
*he'll be healthy just in time and was one of their best players last year, I suggest watching his game vs Russia. No points but was dominant. I could send you the link if you want.
I was also pleased with the selection.I remember being disapointed in Ikonen at the U20 in general, but I haven't watched the Russia game (I give you that). That being said, it was to be expected since he was an underager. I was hoping he could have developped into an Aho (I know it's too much to ask, but he was also a 2nd rounder) since I remember how good he was at the U18, centering the first line with Vesalainen as a winger. Ylonen also had a really good U18 tournament on the 2nd line, that's the first time I noticed him. I was really happy when we selected him with our first pick in the 2nd. I expect Ylonen to produce more at the U20 than he is doing now in Liiga.
I was also pleased with the selection.