GDT: COL @ PIT | Oct-16-2019 | 5 PM MDT

[Bubba Thudd]

I don't want to be overly dramatic, but our season is over. This team can't turn in a complete effort and the wheels are starting to come off. By the end of the weekend, this team will be a smoldering frame of twisted metal in a ditch by the highway.

Does that mean you're going away until next season?

 

[wayninja]

Does that mean you're going away until next season?

Haha. Nice try.

 

[Avsboy]

We actually had 10 different players with shifts in OT:

Mack
Landy
Rantanen
Donskoi
Kadri
Burakovsky
Compher

Makar
Johnson
Girard

ShiftChart - Hockey Shift Data Visualization

No Jost??

 

[Bubba Thudd]

We actually had 10 different players with shifts in OT:

Mack
Landy
Rantanen
Donskoi
Kadri
Burakovsky
Compher

Makar
Johnson
Girard

ShiftChart - Hockey Shift Data Visualization

And Bednar took his time-out to rest the top line, too, didn't he?

 

[SirLoinOfCloth]

And Bednar took his time-out to rest the top line, too, didn't he?

He did yea. I recall seeing Mack stretching out that leg before the PP began.

 

[SirLoinOfCloth]

No Jost??

Apparently not.

It looks like Makar got 2 shifts, EJ and G got 1 shift each.

Mack, and Rants got 2 shifts. Landy got 3. Kadri, Bura, JT and Donskoi each got one too.

 

[Pokecheque]

Finally saw the replay of the GWG. Yikes, that was horrid.

Anyway, I still say it's a good thing that this team has the record it has despite not playing anywhere near as good as their talent suggests. They haven't been horrid by any means, but there's a whole lot of room for improvement.

 

[avs1dacup]

Finally saw the replay of the GWG. Yikes, that was horrid.

Anyway, I still say it's a good thing that this team has the record it has despite not playing anywhere near as good as their talent suggests. They haven't been horrid by any means, but there's a whole lot of room for improvement.

If they were playing fantastic hockey right now, I'd be worried. They're always looking to improve so some hiccups are expected.

 

[Foppa2118]

Woke up to pee in the middle of the night and noticed there was 2 mins left of regulation, so I watched. I shouldn't have. The PP in OT was depressingly bad.

I didn't know they were gonna give up a shorty, but I had a feeling that power play was going to look like crap.

My guess all of last year as to why their 3 on 3 sucked, was because Bednar spent so much time drilling his 5 on 5 system to make it second nature, that he didn't have time to practice the 3 on 3 much. Now their 3 on 3 looks pretty damn good, so I'm guessing they haven't spent any time practicing the rare 4 on 3 PP. Teams don't practice it much as it is.

 

[Bill Peckerskull]

Delete. Wrong thread

 

[GirardSpinorama]

Why is Makar not the one to carry the puck into the zone when Mack was clearly hurt and didn't have his typical speed..

 

[GirardSpinorama]

the 4th line has been our most consistent and "best" (expectation adjusted) line this season.

 

[GirardSpinorama]

4 on 3 is completely different than 5 on 4 yet we did the same thing... Needed an elite shot instead of elite passing in this situation.

 

[Pokecheque]

I will say this--I'm not really concerned about the overall play of the team. I'm also not concerned about the play of the top line.

I am, however, concerned about the play of Erik Johnson. I am not sure why Bednar insists on pairing him and Girard when that duo was a complete disaster last season. EJ was terrible and Sammy got way burned out and beat up. I think EJ should, at the very least, be on the 2nd pairing, not the first one. He can't handle that workload any longer. I would've thought Bednar knew that after the playoffs.

That said, he's also still not using EJ enough in the one area he should be using him, and that's in OT.

 

[kl35ha]

I don’t understand why some coaches like to change things when everything is flowing smoothly...Roy did the same thing...always replace decent players with incompetent ones and praise the they hell out of them when in reality they suck a##!

Vice versa when things are going badly they freaking stick with the same line up for months...

Don’t take Z out of the line up unless he’s injure! especially when he looks like he’s playing with confident. Z is our current Adam Foote, without him this team get push around too much. I don’t care what anyone says Z really is an important part of this team!

 

[GirardSpinorama]

If they were playing fantastic hockey right now, I'd be worried. They're always looking to improve so some hiccups are expected.

I don't understand this logic, we have a record of 5-01, if we were playing fantastic... I would be even less worried.

 

[GirardSpinorama]

I will say this--I'm not really concerned about the overall play of the team. I'm also not concerned about the play of the top line.

I am, however, concerned about the play of Erik Johnson. I am not sure why Bednar insists on pairing him and Girard when that duo was a complete disaster last season. EJ was terrible and Sammy got way burned out and beat up. I think EJ should, at the very least, be on the 2nd pairing, not the first one. He can't handle that workload any longer. I would've thought Bednar knew that after the playoffs.

That said, he's also still not using EJ enough in the one area he should be using him, and that's in OT.

EJ was amazing every game except the last game.

 

[Pacman33]

Dont know why everyone thought we missed z, pretty sure barbs skating slowly behind Hornqvist after the hit showed we mean business

 

[Babel Salamander]

I don't understand this logic, we have a record of 5-01, if we were playing fantastic... I would be even less worried.

I'm not sure why a macro perspective is so difficult for some sports fans to grasp. When was the last time a team played consistently fantastic for 82 games? Just look at the season story with any Stanley Cup Champion. Last season's champion would be a good one to start with.

To dial down specifically, why it is a good thing for a team to face adversity and have room to grow in the regular season, look at the 16-0 New England Patriots. They dominated pretty much every team in the regular season, and when they finally had to deal with some real adversity, it was in the Super Bowl. You don't think it might have benefited them to face tougher some tests and maybe fail earlier in the season? Last season's Tampa Bay Lightning provide an NHL equivalent of that story.

 

[LakewoodAvsFan]

My stream froze just as the GWG was bouncing in. Good timing I would say!

 

[Steerpike]

I'm not sure why a macro perspective is so difficult for some sports fans to grasp. When was the last time a team played consistently fantastic for 82 games? Just look at the season story with any Stanley Cup Champion. Last season's champion would be a good one to start with.

To dial down specifically, why it is a good thing for a team to face adversity and have room to grow in the regular season, look at the 16-0 New England Patriots. They dominated pretty much every team in the regular season, and when they finally had to deal with some real adversity, it was in the Super Bowl. You don't think it might have benefited them to face tougher some tests and maybe fail earlier in the season? Last season's Tampa Bay Lightning provide an NHL equivalent of that story.

Because the macro perspective:

"Win or lose, playing well is an excellent predictor of future success."

Is far more logical than:

"I think that playing like shit will somehow psycologically benefit the team. Here are a few examples of upsets to back up my point."

 

[AvsWraith]

Everybody whinging that Landy and Rants were out there on the PP in OT. Yet if Bednar had sent the second unit out there, everyone would be *****ing about that. This forum just has to ***** no matter what.

They have earned 11 of 12 points, against last years SCF runner up, the penultimate SC winner, last years #1 seed in the west, and a perennial contender (plus minny and arizona). Maybe they have not looked perfect, and maybe they haven't put together a full 60 minute effort that is good enough for some. But they have yet to go pointless in a game. They have come back to win, they have tied it late, they have weathered a comeback attempt. They have won all but once.

Seems like some (many?) of you would not be happy unless they posted 98 shutouts scoring 600 total goals. Sorry, but the other teams have good players too. We just played against the best player of the cap era (and still top 3 in the world as much as I hate him). Game before that, we played against the best goal scorer of this century...top 3 all time.

Rant over.

You new here? It's like that every game, and has been that way since the beginning of time. We react on a game by game basis, just like every other fan base on these boards.

We lost while on the powerplay (4 on 3) by putting the puck in our own net. Who wouldn't ******* ***** about that? You know how dumb that is, especially for a team that was infact 5-0? They had three guys and it looked like they were on the powerplay. We have every right to be upset because that is an awfully stupid way to lose.

 

[GirardSpinorama]

I'm not sure why a macro perspective is so difficult for some sports fans to grasp. When was the last time a team played consistently fantastic for 82 games? Just look at the season story with any Stanley Cup Champion. Last season's champion would be a good one to start with.

To dial down specifically, why it is a good thing for a team to face adversity and have room to grow in the regular season, look at the 16-0 New England Patriots. They dominated pretty much every team in the regular season, and when they finally had to deal with some real adversity, it was in the Super Bowl. You don't think it might have benefited them to face tougher some tests and maybe fail earlier in the season? Last season's Tampa Bay Lightning provide an NHL equivalent of that story.

Adversity is not what we're facing when we play poorly and have a good record. Adversity would be if we were playing well and had a poor record.

 

[wayninja]

Please, everyone, just calm down and hold all of your opinions until the end of the season.

 

[SaltySkywalker]

Everybody whinging that Landy and Rants were out there on the PP in OT. Yet if Bednar had sent the second unit out there, everyone would be *****ing about that. This forum just has to ***** no matter what.

They have earned 11 of 12 points, against last years SCF runner up, the penultimate SC winner, last years #1 seed in the west, and a perennial contender (plus minny and arizona). Maybe they have not looked perfect, and maybe they haven't put together a full 60 minute effort that is good enough for some. But they have yet to go pointless in a game. They have come back to win, they have tied it late, they have weathered a comeback attempt. They have won all but once.

Seems like some (many?) of you would not be happy unless they posted 98 shutouts scoring 600 total goals. Sorry, but the other teams have good players too. We just played against the best player of the cap era (and still top 3 in the world as much as I hate him). Game before that, we played against the best goal scorer of this century...top 3 all time.

Rant over.

Agree with all of this, but honestly, how can anyone hate Crosby? I will never understand the hate towards him. He is a generational talent, an unbelievable leader and an absolute class-act off the ice. Sure, he bitches about calls (more-so back in the day) but what player doesn't? He also takes more BS on the ice than anyone.

He has had some cheap shots in his day which I admittedly don't like.