Pierre from Orleans
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So we can deal with Troubas high demands after his contract expires in a year?Just trade him with Forementon for Trouba and call it a day.
So we can deal with Troubas high demands after his contract expires in a year?Just trade him with Forementon for Trouba and call it a day.
So we can deal with Troubas high demands after his contract expires in a year?
Any statistic provided on NHL.com may be used as evidenceParties can only offer specific types of evidence
The NHL/NHLPA CBA is very specific about what types of evidence can be submitted, to the detriment of certain types of players. Permissible evidence includes:
Here's a sampling of what sort of evidence is inadmissible:
- The number of games played and a player's injury history
- "Overall performance" (including NHL "official statistics")
- Length of service of the player to the club or in the NHL
- "The overall contribution of the Player to the competitive success or failure of his club in the preceding season"
- "Any special qualities of leadership or public appeal"
- The overall performance of alleged comparable players
- The compensation of any comparable players that have been formally introduced as a comparable
Particularly notable is that the "statistics" that players and teams can use are generally the prehistoric numbers - those "official statistics" that are "kept and maintained by the league." It's generally thought that this doesn't really include the sorts of metrics - zone starts, shot attempt differential (Corsi), quality of competition - that are increasingly common in evaluating players.
- A contract entered into when "the Player" was not a "group 2" restricted free agent
- Any contract signed by an unrestricted free agent (so only group 2 restricted free agents can serve as comparable players)
- A contract signed by a player that is not being offered as a comparable player
- Qualifying offers
- Prior negotiating history between the club and the player
- "Testimonials, videotapes, newspaper columns, press game reports
or similar materials"- Any reference to walk-away rights
- Any arbitration award that a club walked away from
- "The financial condition of the club or the league"
- References to the club's salary cap situation, or the players' share (of hockey related revenue)
- Any arbitration award issued in 2005-06, or any reference to a salary arbitration opinion that took place prior to the beginning of the salary cap era
Real time statistics like "hits" and "turnovers," which are both extremely subjective and notoriously unreliable, are admissible.
Source: 3 things you need to know about NHL salary arbitration
From NHLcomI’m not saying that it’s all his fault, the team and goaltending was a train wreck, but IIRC he had the highest GA/min of virtually all defencemen last season.
I’m on my phone in Prague at the moment or I would check.
Nah, new ownership will be in by then and your ass fired. It will get worked out when Bobby Ryan's dead weight contract is also dealt with.
Wasn’t Ceci one of the worst if not the worst advanced stats defencemen in the league last season?
I think you have to take advantage of that opportunity.
I wouldn't use that stuff either, but the eye test tells you to change his deploymentIf they paid attention to that sort of stuff, you'd think they'd change his deployment.
I wouldn't use that stuff either, but the eye test tells you to change his deployment
Think the only way we deal with it,is to tell Bobby the cold hard truth...Play better,or you get to stay here and be the whipping boy longerNah, new ownership will be in by then and your ass fired. It will get worked out when Bobby Ryan's dead weight contract is also dealt with.
Think the only way we deal with it,is to tell Bobby the cold hard truth...Play better,or you get to stay here and be the whipping boy longer
I don't think he is the brightest bulb. I heard TSN crew commentating on his reluctance to change to more protective gloves cuz they don't feel right. Yet he keeps re-injuring his finger with the usual mitts he wears.
I consider it to be exceedingly stupid.We all remember the effect Kelly's skates had on Alfie.
I wouldn't consider Ryan's reluctance about using equipment he is not comfortable with as stupidity. The flip side is he doesn't get broken fingers but scores a lot less due to being incomfortable. Not much better.
Yeah you listen to how many times the announcer says cecis name followed by the announcer talking about Ottawa spending time in its own zoneYou could probably close your eyes and still figure out that his deployment needs to be changed.