Management Claude Julien - Mod Warning post 643
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Love the Sens fans coming in and smelling blood in the water. Similar to Oiler fans who were giddy about getting Chia to run their show last year. How'd that work out for them? Second to last in the entire league and another lottery pick this year? Senator fans, be careful with what you ask for...
TwineTickler
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This is in response to GloryDaze's post about it only being 3 days since the end of the season:
Generally with a decision like this though theres not a ton of deliberation. It's relatively clear cut and it makes me nervous that there has been no word at all. Not even like a "Don Sweeney will hold a press conference on Thursday" or whatever. Nothing. Just dead air while they know that out in the media etc its widely thought that the coach is a sitting duck and at the very least is on the hot seat. Knowing that and just kind of sitting idly by and not making some sort of statement/decision is irritating me a bit. If I'm being impatient in your eyes I understand that I just think this is something that should have been decided one way or the other by now and I think it makes the organization look disorganized and confused as to what to do.... whether or not that's actually accurate or not.
Generally with a decision like this though theres not a ton of deliberation. It's relatively clear cut and it makes me nervous that there has been no word at all. Not even like a "Don Sweeney will hold a press conference on Thursday" or whatever. Nothing. Just dead air while they know that out in the media etc its widely thought that the coach is a sitting duck and at the very least is on the hot seat. Knowing that and just kind of sitting idly by and not making some sort of statement/decision is irritating me a bit. If I'm being impatient in your eyes I understand that I just think this is something that should have been decided one way or the other by now and I think it makes the organization look disorganized and confused as to what to do.... whether or not that's actually accurate or not.
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we can't see it getting any worse than playing your worse defence man 1-4th line for 6-8 games. Which happened this year for Ottawa.
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We just suffered through two years of Dave "Borowiecki on the First Line" Cameron. At this point I'd settle for anyone with actual NHL experience.
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Lonnie this is your post from last thread
"So the logic you're using is that if they dare replace Julien, they're going to suck more and miss the playoff earlier than if they'd have kept Claude? Nothing personal, but what's the difference? If you miss the playoffs on the last day of the season or if you're out of it by American Thanksgiving, you still didn't make the playoffs, no?"
Do you really not see the point I was getting at or are you doing it on purpose which is what I believe.
I was pointing out that with this group of players who the coach was wouldn't matter they were going no where. My main point being that its a player issue not a coaching issue as to why we didn't make the playoffs.
And if you can't see the difference where you give two coaches the same group of players one coach can make a team a contender to make the playoffs and the other would have you out of it by thanksgiving then I don't know what to tell you.
Really your evaluating a coach vs. another coach and the fact one can get more out of a team than another means nothing because neither makes the playoffs? really.
so a coach goes 42-31-9 and misses the playoffs by 1 point and the other coach would go 29-42-11 and is at the bottom of the league. They are the same to you? I don't even know what to say to that so I will be on my way now.
"So the logic you're using is that if they dare replace Julien, they're going to suck more and miss the playoff earlier than if they'd have kept Claude? Nothing personal, but what's the difference? If you miss the playoffs on the last day of the season or if you're out of it by American Thanksgiving, you still didn't make the playoffs, no?"
Do you really not see the point I was getting at or are you doing it on purpose which is what I believe.
I was pointing out that with this group of players who the coach was wouldn't matter they were going no where. My main point being that its a player issue not a coaching issue as to why we didn't make the playoffs.
And if you can't see the difference where you give two coaches the same group of players one coach can make a team a contender to make the playoffs and the other would have you out of it by thanksgiving then I don't know what to tell you.
Really your evaluating a coach vs. another coach and the fact one can get more out of a team than another means nothing because neither makes the playoffs? really.
so a coach goes 42-31-9 and misses the playoffs by 1 point and the other coach would go 29-42-11 and is at the bottom of the league. They are the same to you? I don't even know what to say to that so I will be on my way now.
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Well Julien loved Kevan Miller on the 1st pair here so chances are he'd be a big fan of Borowiecki.
Slow, physical, no puck skills, he'd be a Claude binkie for sure.
GloryDaze4877
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Maybe they haven't decided what to do with Clode yet, and want to sit down and make an informed decision (God Forbid). I know I go back and forth on whether or not they should keep him, and I would not be surprised if the B's FO is having the same dilemma.
Don't see how that's a bad thing?
Or maybe they have decided and are trying to get compensation from OTT as some have suggested? Who knows? I don't think a couple of days is the end of the world.
TwineTickler
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Again, I'm just saying how I perceive whats going on. Doesn't mean its accurate whatsoever and I understand the counter argument. It's okay for people to have different viewpoints/opinions on things. I really just want to know what the plan is or at least for the team to send out an update of when there will be an end of season presser from management.
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At least he kept Miller on defense. He wasn't up there playing with the cream of your forward crop.
Believe me, my biggest fear is that you guys won't fire Julien, because I can totally see reasons why you wouldn't.
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Julien did chicken soup out of chicken ****.
Everyone except for a few Bruins fans think he his at least a top 5 coach in the NHL.
Julien would do great back home where he has the respect of the hockey fans.
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And I mean Boro was on the 1st pairing D for a while too so Karlsson already has the familiarity
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Man, I am so torn on this issue. I keep typing and deleting everything my brain puts out.
On one hand, I want Claude to stay. The guy is a top coach and I think he did his best with what he had to work with. It seemed like the advice from the top was that he needed to make the playoffs to save his job. I think with the veteran pieces we have in their primes and some major additions on defense, this team can be a threat.
On the other hand, the team is clearly at a crossroads. They have a TON of young talent in the system, and it might be time for a coach who is better at developing young talent rather than someone who is great at working with the vets. Is it time to go down the road of really, 'playing the kids'?
I don't know. There have been so many bad moves the past few years, it's been like slowly watching a train crash.
On one hand, I want Claude to stay. The guy is a top coach and I think he did his best with what he had to work with. It seemed like the advice from the top was that he needed to make the playoffs to save his job. I think with the veteran pieces we have in their primes and some major additions on defense, this team can be a threat.
On the other hand, the team is clearly at a crossroads. They have a TON of young talent in the system, and it might be time for a coach who is better at developing young talent rather than someone who is great at working with the vets. Is it time to go down the road of really, 'playing the kids'?
I don't know. There have been so many bad moves the past few years, it's been like slowly watching a train crash.
I like Claude, but he is the guy that used Gregory ****ing Campbell as the extra attacker twice in a season. That still blows my mind.
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You should of spend more time thinking about the bolded.
That is so wrong it's not even funny.
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and we used Chris Neil. Are you guys sure we didn't have the same coach? Come to think of it, I've never seen Dave Cameron and Claude in the same photo together
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