Management Claude Julien II Mod Note post 754

[Dennis Bonvie]

Too bad morrow and c miller spent so much time in press box last year could have benefited Claude this year.

Too bad they're not better players.

 

[patty59]

Too bad they're not better players.

Definitely would have helped

 

[Blowfish]

Too bad they're not better players.

Too bad not given opportunity over should be better players.

 

[Fenway]

And losing makes those seats empty.

I don't understand "unwilling to lose money to win". Usually people that become billionaires are very willing to lose money short term to win big long term.

Ilitch wanted to buy championships before he died. He financed a nice run of Cups in Detroit but finally the salary cap slowed him down.

I fear what the Bruins might do next.

 

[CDJ]

8 out of 10 times!

8 out of 10 times what? Not going to the Stanley cup?


I'll ****ing take 2 Stanley cup appearances every decade, idk I'm not greedy though

 

[Fenway]

8 out of 10 times what? Not going to the Stanley cup?


I'll ****ing take 2 Stanley cup appearances every decade, idk I'm not greedy though

With the number of teams in the NHL now getting to the SCF twice every decade is a lofty goal.

Montreal hasn't been to the SCF in 24 years and Toronto is at 50. We can't complain.

 

[TheReal13Linseman]

Literally nobody said that

Cute. intellectually dishonest, but cute.

If they fire Julian, then, let's agree that that would mean that he's considered to be, or at least charged with being, "most at fault", then?

That's what many here are arguing, correct?

Or, are we postulating that DS and Cam know they themselves are partly/mostly to blame, but because they're higher on the food chain, CJ's the most convenient scapegoat?

Under any of these scenarios, it's still a dumb move because no coach is going to get anything out of this "half an NHL team" we call the Bruins.

Half the NHL coaches are mediocre. But, yeah, let's roll the dice and hope for the best in a couple years when the players catch up. Really smart.

 

[BBB24]

Too bad not given opportunity over should be better players.

They have been given the same opportunities as those who play ahead of them, see Carlo, Krug

 

[JOKER 192]

They have been given the same opportunities as those who play ahead of them, see Carlo, Krug

that is true . The issue is that they have been given the same opportunities to show what Julien wants to see, Miller and Morrow provide a different product than Carlo, it's called offence, but Claude wants to see defence.

Now I am a fan of Carlo and I love what he brings but I also love what Miller brings and quite frankly find Miller way more entertaining. So while the 3 have been given the same chance it is only one thing Claude is interested in and that is defence. So because Carlo is better at playing defensive hockey, he gets the gig.


Remember how Krug got his chance, the fact that he was able to produce right away is what forced Julien's hand. I really don't think he would have been the same chance if we had all the plug Dmen we have now at the time. At the end of the day Krug really isn't that good at defence, he's not miles ahead of Miller who if given the chance to play regularly the same way Krug was given he probably wouldn't be to far behind. Krug makes just as many mistakes as Miller does.

 

[22Brad Park]

that is true . The issue is that they have been given the same opportunities to show what Julien wants to see, Miller and Morrow provide a different product than Carlo, it's called offence, but Claude wants to see defence.

Now I am a fan of Carlo and I love what he brings but I also love what Miller brings and quite frankly find Miller way more entertaining. So while the 3 have been given the same chance it is only one thing Claude is interested in and that is defence. So because Carlo is better at playing defensive hockey, he gets the gig.


Remember how Krug got his chance, the fact that he was able to produce right away is what forced Julien's hand. I really don't think he would have been the same chance if we had all the plug Dmen we have now at the time. At the end of the day Krug really isn't that good at defence, he's not miles ahead of Miller who if given the chance to play regularly the same way Krug was given he probably wouldn't be to far behind. Krug makes just as many mistakes as Miller does.

Cannot disagree with this post I like Colin Miler but not Morrow however.Afraid Bruins are gonna lose Miller to Vegas

 

[JOKER 192]

Cannot disagree with this post I like Colin Miler but not Morrow however.Afraid Bruins are gonna lose Miller to Vegas

I'm afraid your right, I mean of the players who will be unprotected (I expect Miller to one of them ) who would you take? It's a no brainer to me.

 

[Mpasta]

Cute. intellectually dishonest, but cute.

If they fire Julian, then, let's agree that that would mean that he's considered to be, or at least charged with being, "most at fault", then?

That's what many here are arguing, correct?

Or, are we postulating that DS and Cam know they themselves are partly/mostly to blame, but because they're higher on the food chain, CJ's the most convenient scapegoat?

Under any of these scenarios, it's still a dumb move because no coach is going to get anything out of this "half an NHL team" we call the Bruins.

Half the NHL coaches are mediocre. But, yeah, let's roll the dice and hope for the best in a couple years when the players catch up. Really smart.

Try not to get so upset when people have a different opinion than you do. Try to keep your emotions out of it. It's easier that way.

I would say most people here that want him fired think that's he's a good coach but also understand that it's time for a change.

No coach wins the Cup anymore when they've been with the same team for this long.

 

[Bruinaura]

Try not to get so upset when people have a different opinion than you do. Try to keep your emotions out of it. It's easier that way.

I would say most people here that want him fired think that's he's a good coach but also understand that it's time for a change.

No coach wins the Cup anymore when they've been with the same team for this long.

Quenneville has three in one less year.

 

[finchster]

Too bad not given opportunity over should be better players.

Morrow and Miller got chances, they have proven that with the least amount of ice time against the weakest opposition, they cannot be trusted. Why should they get more time? Time to face facts, Morrow is definitely not an NHL defenceman and Miller might be if he can produce enough offense to be a pp #6 defenceman.

 

[HeartsAlive]

Unless this management team is as truly incompetent as most think it is (which for the most part I agree) then I don't think Claude is getting fired in season. If it were to happen, then after the last 2 games are when it needs to happen, there is nothing to gain but lost time bringing in the next guy if he's fired after losing to Chicago and Pittsburgh. I've been in favor of moving on from Claude in the past, but if you're going to keep him on for these next 2 games only to fire him 2 weeks from now during the A.S. break then you are pretty much stabbing one of the best coaches in your teams storied history right in the back.

To me, I'm holding the slimmest of hopes that the Murphy stuff is JJ putting Cam's feet to the fire. "If you want to fire him, you're taking the reigns from here". If I'm further reading into it, Cam even hinting that he wants Sweeney to coach is him just passing the buck down on a subordinate.

The debacle that has been the last 3 seasons really just shows how far removed from a cohesive plan this entire management team has. Owners that want to win now, either for good of the team or good for their bottom line. A president that wants to bring back the rock em sock em 80's when those players are getting passed over for speed and skill. A GM drafting a character driven new core that lacks elite skills (save McAvoy and maybe Senyshyn). A coach that just wants a defensively responsible, hard working team to play a system that doesn't really matchup well in today's NHL.

That coupled with a team with a just talented enough core to keep them from ever really being out of the the top 18 or so teams in the league. It's also just old enough and expensive enough that you're not likely to see them win again without an infusion of young homegrown ELC talent, which is still too young to help now.

The team needs to pick a damn direction.

 

[smithformeragent]

With the number of teams in the NHL now getting to the SCF twice every decade is a lofty goal.

Montreal hasn't been to the SCF in 24 years and Toronto is at 50. We can't complain.

The post 2001 Boston sports fan has an entitled streak.

 

[LouJersey]

Ilitch wanted to buy championships before he died. He financed a nice run of Cups in Detroit but finally the salary cap slowed him down.

I fear what the Bruins might do next.

True I would hate to buy championships.

 

[the overrated]

While I hope it doesn't happen today, I wouldn't be surprised to see a firing happen today. (1) It's Friday, so if they time it right it'll be too late to get it into the news cycle too prominently locally, and (2) most fans are concentrating more on the Pats. So much the same way the State of the Bruins was somewhat hidden by the Pats game, an announcement that might bring some criticism could easily be hidden on a day like today.

Its either that or both CJ and Cam get canned by the end of the season

Can you imagine cam as a coach??

Door slams. In your face. That stare ... Scary

Players will respond . Just not sure in a positive or negative way

The idea that the players will respond positively in the slightest to Cam looking at them with his angry scowl is a longshot, in my eyes. I think it'd do more to alienate the players than anything motivational.

 

[ODAAT]

Too bad they're not better players.

/thread

Although I have liked C Miller`s game in the recent weeks prior to his injury, really appeared as though he was starting to get "it"

 

[KrejciMVP]

let Vegas have the whole team minus out top scorers and young players

 

[BNHL]

8 out of 10 times what? Not going to the Stanley cup?


I'll ****ing take 2 Stanley cup appearances every decade, idk I'm not greedy though

Me too,but I'm not okay with the 8 other years of not making the playoffs or bowing out with one series win. Maybe the 2 DNQs didn't have the talent? They did. Maybe the 2 first round losers didn't have the talent,they did. Maybe the 3 2nd round losers didn't have the talent,they did.

 

[BNHL]

Morrow and Miller got chances, they have proven that with the least amount of ice time against the weakest opposition, they cannot be trusted. Why should they get more time? Time to face facts, Morrow is definitely not an NHL defenceman and Miller might be if he can produce enough offense to be a pp #6 defenceman.

Way too premature,with approx 60 scattered NHL games each and for an unforgiving coach feeling the pressure of nightly "must wins."

 

[LouJersey]

8 out of 10 times what? Not going to the Stanley cup?


I'll ****ing take 2 Stanley cup appearances every decade, idk I'm not greedy though

2008 solid
2009 choke
2010 choke
2011 awesome
2012 choke
2013 pretty awesome
2014 choke
2015 choke
2016 choke
2017 shaping up to be awful

 

[KrejciMVP]

2008 solid
2009 choke
2010 choke
2011 awesome
2012 choke
2013 pretty awesome
2014 choke
2015 choke
2016 choke
2017 shaping up to be awful

2013 was pretty awesome but the choke label applies for game 6

 

[Gee Wally]

nearing 1000 limit

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