It's a big jump. Mentally, emotionally and physically. Look how the isles handled barzal. Hardly bs even for the most skilled. Not saying he cant but I think the odds are against.
Claude Giroux: "Reasons to be Cheerful Part III"
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Barzal didnt play a single game in the AHL and won ROTY with 85 points at the same age Frost will be next season.
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Well, it depends on how much stronger he is in camp, added weight but not strength this year and it showed, he should naturally bulk up a bit a year later.
Frost probably needs to be a little stronger as he doesn't play a high speed game (though he's playing faster), that is, he is a bit too deliberate which means he'll be targeted for more contact at the NHL level.
The best smurfs are fast AND ultra-quick, so they rarely get touched, and either play with big boys who do the dirty work or a couple other smurf-types so they just skate through life.
Frost probably needs to be a little stronger as he doesn't play a high speed game (though he's playing faster), that is, he is a bit too deliberate which means he'll be targeted for more contact at the NHL level.
The best smurfs are fast AND ultra-quick, so they rarely get touched, and either play with big boys who do the dirty work or a couple other smurf-types so they just skate through life.
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The replies to this tweet are quite entertaining. Thought y’all would enjoy
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Sombastate
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Imagine watching G and thinking he has no desire to excel.
Imagine looking at arguable the second or third best player in a decade and thinking to yourself "That guy has no drive."
Imagine looking at arguable the second or third best player in a decade and thinking to yourself "That guy has no drive."
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Ugh, I love the Flyers so much I tortured myself reading that damn thread and all the stupid taeks from hockey-illiterate idiots.
Last spring (PO time) I traveled through Memphis, and there were a multitude of tvs in various bars turned to the Preds game. Get a load of that. Memphis, cheering for Nashville, 3 hours away, roughly 200 miles. Nashville is likely a better hockey city than Philadelphia. I'm embarrassed because I'm not ignorant of the situation. Nevermind the boo'ing, I enjoy boo'ing. (At the home opener, I boo'ed the former HC, Lappy, and AMac, lustfully so. And that was just during introductions. Bet your bottom dollar I boo'ed after watching them get shellacked by the Sharks, waste of money, and time.)
Giroux is clearly a fantastic Flyer, making a legit argument for the Mt. Rushmore of Flyers lore. (Clarke, Parent, Lindros, Giroux)
A large part of the problem is the defeatist attitude done by the opinion makers, and just blatant ineptitude from the vast majority of journalist coverage folks.
I have hate in my heart, for the idiots, the sports-talk hosts, and a little for myself for caring so much and reading that drek.
Edit- Because the shit-for-brains that don't realize how good Giroux is are so unfamiliar with the sport of hockey in general, it's too easy for them to criticize with no context. Hockey is unlike any other sport, where 1 superstar cannot win alone. The closest may be baseball, with clear comparisons for goalie to pitcher, and needing a line-up to both play defense (field) and multiple folks to score (goals or runs). Philly fans are typically stupid, so so unintelligent.
Sad thing is that there are even semi-knowledgeable fans too who don't appreciate Giroux and think he is one-dimensional, offense only player. People who think only big, two-way players are worth anything. You know, the hakstols of the world.
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Imagine how painful the last 7 years of Flyers fandom would have been if you aren't a Giroux fan.
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Giroux should be a flyer for life. When I go to the games I come away impressed every time I watch him. Not because of the skill or talent but just because his overall effort is always there. I’m talking about simple plays. Board play, neutral zone, and defense.
We just see on tv when players make mistakes but we don’t see is the 100 good little plays the players make before and after their mistakes. The guy is one of the best in the league. Keep building the talent around him. He has shown he is versatile and will switch to wing. He might not be a 70 point player in three-four years but there is no way I let him walk once we get there.
We just see on tv when players make mistakes but we don’t see is the 100 good little plays the players make before and after their mistakes. The guy is one of the best in the league. Keep building the talent around him. He has shown he is versatile and will switch to wing. He might not be a 70 point player in three-four years but there is no way I let him walk once we get there.
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So him going to LW next year will have nothing to do with having Couts, Patrick and Frost at C?
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Nope not today.
If you have speed and skill in this league you can succeed. Look at the league scoring leaders. I see quite a few players who aren’t physical guys. Its a speed and skill game.
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It will have everything to do with Couts and Patrick being big, plus defensive centers that can anchor the top two lines.
Frost probably won't be great defensively as a rookie (learning curve, will have to compensate for lack of size with speed and anticipation) but Giroux ain't gonna be the 3C.
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Oh shit that's right. I forgot that Patrick will be as good as Tavares in the next 30 games.
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Geez, and I thought people here were overly dramatic. What site is that?I bet some of these idiots post on here.
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No place in the world is more overly dramatic than Twitter.
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If someone is not a Giroux fan, but still likes the Flyers, they deserve the unhappiness they get.
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half a dozen HOF caliber prospects in the pool as well so even if the whole team dies in a fiery plane crash we should be hoisting the Cup in 3 years time!
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Ahh, I see what you did there. Very clever. Hedging your bets.
Three years splits the two years, from being two years away. Wise move.
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Never have I seen one player get shit on as much as Giroux does by the same people who go off about Giroux not being good defensively or not being elite, etc......The Flyers could have had Wayne Gretzky and the same people would shit on him as well.
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