News Article: Chris Ilitch noncommittal on Holland’s return

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  1. Redder Winger

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    I get your point, but you can't say it was decided, because it still all hinged on Babcock.
    Are we really supposed to believe Blashill was viewed as the 2nd best coach in the world?
     
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    It all may have hinged on babcock, but Blashill seemed very ready at the time. The options appeared to be keep Babcock (maybe the best coach in the game), or promote a guy the league knew was an NHL coach, who could be developed around for years or even decades. They hedged their bets, and had the options that THEY wanted. in the end we ended up with an average NHL coach. (The team is bad, and looks bad with him, but its not like he has a team full of all stars who are failing) I think Babcock still misses the playoffs last year, probably this year also.
     
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    If anything I think you mean "Are we really supposed to believe Blashill was viewed as the 2nd best available coach in the world?".

    I truly don't remember who was available at that time.
     
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    Most teams thinking logically promote their Calder Cup-winning coach. The Lighting, Avalanche, Capitals, Flyers, and so on, have all done it.
     
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    mclellan was at least but i guess EDM job with mcdavid was more attracting. iirc, kenny was set on blash from the beginning, we didn't interview anyone else.

    that would be pretty terrible..

    avs didn't promote bednar, he came from columbus calder team.
     
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    Unlike some here. I don't think blashill is a bad coach. But I also don't know if he is a good coach.

    It's hard to be a good coach when you have a **** team.


    This team is awful. This team is assembled by holland and it's terrible. Holland should not be back.

    If blashill gets another year or not idk idc. I'd let the new GM decide.

    Now with nill I don't know. He is a good gm, but great? Not sure. I feel nill is just the safety pick. We known what he is and what we will get. I sort of just want a fresh start, clean house. But this is the red wings and we don't do that.
     
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    yoooooo

    i just realized, if we ship holland to seattle, we can probably get rid of Helm and Abby in the expansion draft.
     
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    Datsyukian Deke Is Holland gone yet?

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    Yes....Gilbert.
    [​IMG]
     
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    aren't we forced to protect them due to no movement clauses and whatnot
     
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    they only have a NTC which means teams don't have to protect them. Helm wasn't protected during the Vegas draft.
     
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    Is there any other Michigan Billionaries who could buy the team and/or are hockey guys ?
     
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    Just so it's not this guy:

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    (That's Pistons owner Tom Gores, for anybody who didn't know.)
     
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    If you weren't aware Chris Ilitch commented saying he backs Avila and would not comment on Holland's future. It sounds like Holland may be done here in Detroit, finally. If Holland is indeed gone, with the picks that Holland got in the Tatar deal and Mrazek and Green money coming off, it looks to be promising future for the first time in a long time. Do you care who they hire as GM or is it just anyone but Holland at this point?

    Ilitch won't talk Ken Holland's future; is time up for Red Wings GM?
     
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    I'm not sure why you think it means Holland may be done here. It sounds non-committal to me, as if that decision hasn't even been made yet, which is ridiculous given Holland's contract status, the condition of the current team and the importance of this year's draft. Whether he's staying or going, ownership needs to have a plan in place so we'll be ready on draft day. To me, it seems Holland will be at least staying through the draft because nothing has been heard about him being released up to this point. If he is gone there won't be an outside hire coming in to steer us through the draft. A fresh perspective would require a great deal of time to get caught up with the rest of the front office and the drafting/scouting staff. When all is said and done, I think Holland will be given one more season at least.
     
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    I would think that if Holland is drafting for us then he will be here for the whole year.
     
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    Do you think Holland accepts a 1 year deal?
    He could go work in seattle and get a retirement contract and work near home.
     
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    His contract may run through the end of the year (June 30 or so).

    So if he's not coming back, do you bring in a new GM on July 1? That sounds risky.

    IMO, if Holland isn't coming back, you relieve him as soon as the season is over (if not sooner), hire a new GM and let him make decisions on resigning free agents, coaches, scouts, the draft, UFAs etc

    If Holland signs a 1 year deal, we're going to have a lot of Yzerman speculation
     
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    1-year deal does not prevent any Seattle plans. It would be almost too idealistic. He could be at Detroit for 2018-19 and still concentrate a full year from 2019 summer for an expansion draft year later at 2020.
     
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    I do

    Completely different situations. As far as I know, Avila is under contract for a few more years so of course the owner is going to back him. KH is on an expiring contract.
     
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    I'm not sure is it official yet, but seems to be that Carolina Hurricanes are firing their GM Ron Francis.

    They have now new owner and he wants to bring his own guy in.

    I see this as a huge mistake and as an opportunity to steal a good hockey mind (Francis) to Detroit.

    If Holland is let go, we should heavily pursue after Francis. I see him as an equal option for Yzerman. Very good drafter, especially. Steal the best scouts etc. from Carolina after the hire...
     
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    He's been named President of Hockey Operations
    Ron Francis out as Hurricanes GM; named president of hockey operations - Sportsnet.ca
     
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    SoupNazi No Soup for You!!!

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    What makes you think that?
     
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    His contract will end at 2018-19 and is free to look elsewhere. Back to GMing if he likes that more.

    Big summer that 2019 on GM level. Seattle etc. I think we should extend Kenny there and the look for these Francis/Yzerman options.

    There has to be good choices in replacing Kenny. I don't want to replace him just for the sake of replacement, if there's not decent options.
     
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    I always thought it was a double standard, that player contracts are all completely public - and sometimes publicly debated - but the AAV (and, more importantly, term) of front office contracts is frequently kept hush-hush.

    Teams should know how many years every GM in the league has left on his deal, and the same for the assistants and other key personnel.
     
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    If we land Dahlin, does that increase the chances of keeping around Holland, Wright, and everyone else?
     

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