CHL Territorial Rights

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  1. HaughNasty

    HaughNasty Registered User

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    Do they have one? If so who get's what province (some of them are more obvious than others) and do they have any effect on American prospects (like does the New England Area play in Q the NY-PA are in the OHL etc.)?

    Sorry I am not really sure about how that works. Thanks.
     
  2. SergeConstantin74

    SergeConstantin74 Always right.

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    WHL
    Canada: British Columbia, Alberta, Saskatchewan, Manitoba.
    USA: Alaska, Arizona, California, Colorado, Hawaii, Idaho, Kansas, Minnesota, Montana, Nebraska, Nevada, New Mexico, North Dakota, Oklahoma, Oregon, South Dakota, Texas, Utah, Washington and Wyoming

    OHL
    Canada: Ontario
    USA: Alabama, Arkansas, Delaware, Florida, Georgia, Illinois, Indiana, Iowa, Kentucky, Louisiana, Maryland, Michigan, Mississippi, Missouri, New Jersey, New York, North Carolina, Ohio, Pennsylvania, South Carolina, Tennessee, Virginia, West Virginia and Wisconsin

    QMJHL
    Canada: Quebec, New Brunswick, Nova Scotia, Prince Edward Island, Newfoundland and Labrador.
    USA: New England (Maine, Vermont, New Hampshire, Massachusetts, Connecticut, Rhode Island)
     
  3. HaughNasty

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    Ok thank you very much. Do you have a source by any chance? Not questioning you I am just interested.
     
  4. SergeConstantin74

    SergeConstantin74 Always right.

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    For the Canadian territories and the Q's american territories, the source is me.

    For the rest, I took it from another thread on HF.
     
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    CCF This is the year....

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    Who gets the Territories?
     
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    I'd think them, Nunavut, and Yukon would theoretically be in WHL.
     
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    They are listed some places and not listed in other places, but the Northwest Territories and the Yukon Territory are in WHL's territory:

    http://www.whl.ca/page/prospects-central-faq-s

    If you look on other pages on the WHL site, you'll notice they aren't listed, but that's probably due to the fact that players hardly come from there.

    Not sure about Nunavut though..
     
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    Jamie Benn NHL Draft Enthusiast

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    Like a superstar is gonna come out of Nunavut :laugh:
    But you never know
     
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    Jordin Tootoo...not a super star but plays in the NHL obviously.
     
  10. Jamie Benn

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    That's true, but I meant born in Nunavut.

    Nunavut was founded in 1999 if i'm correct?
     
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    Always wondered, is the Province/State the player is born in? Or where they live? What if the kid moves or has divorced parents in different Provinces/States?

    I just wonder if kids could use that to manipulate the system.
     
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    Yeah I dunno, Stefan Noeson 1st round pick of the Sens is from Texas but plays in the OHL because he lives in Michigan. I'm assuming it's where you are living when drafted? I know Claude Giroux played in the Q but is from Ontario. But I think that's because he was passed on I'm not sure though.
     
  13. SergeConstantin74

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    He was passed on twice in the OHL draft so he became a free agent.
     
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    That's a good question. I know it's place where they live but it's a bit complicated to understand.

    Galchenyuk was considered as an American and not an Import because he has american nationality. I think even if he lived in Russia at the time of his draft he would have not been considered as an Import.
     
  15. backdoorpass

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    certain amount of year of where lived, noesen lived in michigan for two years at least so there for he becomes part of ohl, on the import thing, because he was born in states and citizenship he is not an import
     
  16. Cousin Eddie

    Cousin Eddie You Serious Clark?

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    Players from Newfoundland always had the option to play where they wanted until St. John's got a q team a few years ago. Since then All players from Newfoundland must play in the qmjhl.

    My question is, how do players switch leagues. For example there are two goalies that played in the qmjhl last year that were in the ohl the previous year? What are the rules around this?
     
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    I believe the player has to clear waivers in his original league and then he can go to another league. That is how the Sea Dogs got WHL goalie Jacob De Serres.
     
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    Huge move for such a young kid.
     
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    Pretty sure it's this. Hence why Taylor Hall was born in Alberta, but raised in Ontario.

    As for Galchenyuk, I'd be interested in learning the rule around that. Because I was under the impression that reason he left Russia to come over to play for the Chicago Young Americans during his minor midget year, was to make himself eligible for the OHL Draft (there was some uncertainty that he was).

    A little off topic, but does anyone know if Philip Samuelsson was eligible for the import draft, or if he was drafted into the WHL? He, and his brother have duel-citizenships as far as I'm aware.
     
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    Its wherever the parents permanent address is...Example Rocco Grimaldi played midget hockey in Michigan as a 15 year old...But since his parents permanent address was in California he wasn't eligible for the OHL Draft and his territorial rights belonged in the WHL where Vancouver picked them up and were later traded to Portland.
     

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