Post-Game Talk: Chili Bowls @ CheeseSteaks 7:37PM

[AtNightWeFly]

you fix it by never doing it again.

 

[zappa4ever]

Man, talk about snatching defeat from the jaws of ineptitude, just put RCHP's Give It Away on repeat for this one

Jensen cpl of bad ones esp. 1st goal, Carlson many bad ones, Kuzy horrendous bad decision on the SHG
and LOL at PP zone entries all nite long

Probably would've won 4-2 or so if we didn't have various body parts up collective arses

On a positive, we didn't take too many penalties

 

[Beef Invictus]

Don't have to listen the garbage NBCS at least.

Calling a Caps/Flyers game must be the worst case scenario for noted Pens fan Doc Emrick.

 

[SpinningEdge]

We are like 45 games in the season. It’s not a sample size anymore.

Holtby has won an award, nominated other times, was a big reason for our cup win, etc.

past couple years his gaa hasn’t been good. His save percentage this year is .901

....... I will always love him - but is it SAFE to say he’s not a “great” goalie anymore without Korn? Is anything even over AVERAGE goalie salary too much??

 

[kicksavedave]

We are like 45 games in the season. It’s not a sample size anymore.

Holtby has won an award, nominated other times, was a big reason for our cup win, etc.

past couple years his gaa hasn’t been good. His save percentage this year is .901

....... I will always love him - but is it SAFE to say he’s not a “great” goalie anymore without Korn? Is anything even over AVERAGE goalie salary too much??

His decline started before Korn left, so I'm not certain that is the reason for it, but its possible.

 

[koalabear9301]

We are like 45 games in the season. It’s not a sample size anymore.

Holtby has won an award, nominated other times, was a big reason for our cup win, etc.

past couple years his gaa hasn’t been good. His save percentage this year is .901

....... I will always love him - but is it SAFE to say he’s not a “great” goalie anymore without Korn? Is anything even over AVERAGE goalie salary too much??

Holtby's not playing at a high level, but I'm confused with giving him any blame for this loss. First and 3rd goals were off breakaways that shouldn't be happening. If it was Samsonov in net we'd be blaming the defense for it, and we'd be right. This specific game, Holtby was fine.

 

[kicksavedave]

For me I think the biggest takeaway was, after Jensen did his fumble to Courtier that lead to the first goal, he got benched - something some fans here have been calling for for weeks. It didn't really change anything, the egregious turnovers continued all game long and it was JC who's terrible pass lead to the GWG by Hayes. There's only so much a coach can do when even his top players are playing without much concentration. I think its just a byproduct of having too much regular season success for too long. Its hard (impossible really) to get up and be motivated and focused ALL the time, and mid season is when the Caps always go through this tired, lackadaisical stretch.

The Caps know they are going to coast into the playoffs. The Flyers are fighting for their playoff lives. Teams have completely different motivations this time of year. Benching everyone who makes careless plays isn't going to solve much right now.

 

[kicksavedave]

Holtby's not playing at a high level, but I'm confused with giving him any blame for this loss. First and 3rd goals were off breakaways that shouldn't be happening. If it was Samsonov in net we'd be blaming the defense for it, and we'd be right. This specific game, Holtby was fine.

He's not playing at a high level, but while not every loss is on him, he's a UFA and looking for a $10+M contract this summer - but he's not earning it or worthy of it. I think its clear that unless the wheels completely fall off, he's our starter this year, but I think his play will also mean his days as a Cap are coming to an end.

 

[crazy8888]

He's not playing at a high level, but while not every loss is on him, he's a UFA and looking for a $10+M contract this summer - but he's not earning it or worthy of it. I think its clear that unless the wheels completely fall off, he's our starter this year, but I think his play will also mean his days as a Cap are coming to an end.

Holtby is garbage without Mitch Korn guiding him. Either do everything possible to get Korn back or get rid of Holtby.

 

[Devil Dancer]

He's not playing at a high level, but while not every loss is on him, he's a UFA and looking for a $10+M contract this summer - but he's not earning it or worthy of it. I think its clear that unless the wheels completely fall off, he's our starter this year, but I think his play will also mean his days as a Cap are coming to an end.

The way his numbers are, and with the situation with Bob in Florida, no one is giving Holtby $10m.

 

[kicksavedave]

The way his numbers are, and with the situation with Bob in Florida, no one is giving Holtby $10m.

Never underestimate NHL GM's ability to think they are smarter than everyone else, it only takes one fool.

Even still, at $9, 8, 7, 6, its still not a good deal for us, not with Sammy showing he's clearly the future.

 

[tenken00]

For me I think the biggest takeaway was, after Jensen did his fumble to Courtier that lead to the first goal, he got benched - something some fans here have been calling for for weeks. It didn't really change anything, the egregious turnovers continued all game long and it was JC who's terrible pass lead to the GWG by Hayes. There's only so much a coach can do when even his top players are playing without much concentration. I think its just a byproduct of having too much regular season success for too long. Its hard (impossible really) to get up and be motivated and focused ALL the time, and mid season is when the Caps always go through this tired, lackadaisical stretch.

The Caps know they are going to coast into the playoffs. The Flyers are fighting for their playoff lives. Teams have completely different motivations this time of year. Benching everyone who makes careless plays isn't going to solve much right now.

Games like the Sharks where the Caps come back in the last minute with 2 goals to tie and then win the game are such double edged swords.

Being the best team on 6v5 is such a double edged sword.

But they've been this way for so long, it's hard to get that worked up about it now. They are who they are.

And I guess we all know that the regular season really means nothing anymore. And even more importantly, they know. Just get in to the dance, doesn't matter if you win the President's Trophy or as a wildcard. Just turn it on a little bit before the playoffs start. That's how it's always going to be the rest of this era.

 

[Devil Dancer]

Even still, at $9, 8, 7, 6, its still not a good deal for us, not with Sammy showing he's clearly the future.

Totally agree.

Thank you for your service 70, we'll miss you. See you at your jersey retirement ceremony (maybe), or better yet, ring of honor induction.

 

[Hivemind]

My thoughts from the nosebleeds last night:

*PP issues aren't related to formation. It's the zone entries that are scuffed. The zone entries are also what made it so good several years ago. Need to clean that aspect up in order to fix the PP
*Jensen does some subtle things right, but when he makes mistakes they are glaring and harmful. Needs to be better
*John Carlson played like the public perception of Mike Green last night. Bad turnovers in multiple zones (obviously highlighted by the breakaway goal against). Constantly jumping up into the play. Rough puck handling when pressured deep in his zone. I think the hot offensive start might have got to his head, because his defensive play is suffering
*Even ignoring his 10 minute vacation from the game, Panik was mostly invisible
*Hagelin is still where offense goes to die
*Siege treats the puck a bit too much like a hand grenade on breakouts
*Leipsic brings a lot of speed to the 4th line, but he's getting physical overmatched by a lot of players

 

[CapitalsCupReality]

Holtby is garbage without Mitch Korn guiding him. Either do everything possible to get Korn back or get rid of Holtby.

or maybe he’s just aging....