Friedman: Chicago still interested in Faulk

[Rick C137]

I'm just saying, you're claiming Saad isn't available in the trade because you'd be selling low. Then turn around and lowball for Faulk because he's coming off a down season.

Saad has a lot more value to this team than two years of Faulk does and he absolutely should not be on the table for Faulk. There’s other reasons other than the sell low aspect that moving Saad for Faulk doesn’t make sense. If you don’t like what’s being offered for Faulk, then decline it and move on. The only one seemingly getting offended here is you.

 

[Big Daddy Cane]

We want to buy low on Faulk because Carolina, from all the rumors and reports, are looking to trade him because they have so many other options on RD.

Us Hawks fans don't want to sell low on Saad because we have spots for him here. It's not like we're filled with more talented offensive forwards than Saad and he's being relegated to the 4th line.

We don't need to trade Saad while his value is the lowest it's been in years, and while Carolina doesn't technically need to trade Faulk while his value is low, they seem to be interested in moving him now because of how their roster is currently taking shape. Different set of circumstances.

The same conversation took place before the Hamilton trade, when Carolina didn't have the depth to move Faulk.

 

[thesaadfather]

Faulk
Boqvist
Jokiharju
Beaudin
Mitchell
(+ Seabrook and Mitchell)

How many offensive right-handed D do the Hawks want on their team?

Beaudin is a left shot, Seabrook is old and sucks, and the rest of those guys could be a few years away.

 

[Hawkaholic]

I'm just saying, you're claiming Saad isn't available in the trade because you'd be selling low. Then turn around and lowball for Faulk because he's coming off a down season.

IMO, Forsling and a 2nd is not a low ball offer at all.

Forsling has big potential, and a 2nd in next years draft could be as high as 35.

What are you expecting for Faulk?

 

[migi]

Why would any fan here in fantasy land called HFBoards sell any of their own players low? I mean cmon, we are in HFBoards!

Of course we try to screw you. And bash your offers and go tell the Leafs fans that they should go sleep.

 

[Taylorst]

Hawks have decent amount of cap room and are in low 40's with regard to contracts

Also Hawks have never been team that leaks a lot of information and many deals come from nowhere

Hawks currently have 9 million to spend I wouldn't say that's a whole lot, considering they desperately need 2 defense man , a top 6 JVR , back up goalie and bottom 6 center and wing toughness

 

[The Faulker]

Saad has a lot more value to this team than two years of Faulk does and he absolutely should not be on the table for Faulk. There’s other reasons other than the sell low aspect that moving Saad for Faulk doesn’t make sense. If you don’t like what’s being offered for Faulk, then decline it and move on. The only one seemingly getting offended here is you.

I'm only pointing out the backwards logic when the selling low argument is made.

If I had my way, we'd just keep/resign Skinner and then move Faulk for an equivalent LHD.

 

[Pucker77]

I have to believe any deal would be around Faulk for Crawford.

 

[Blackhawkswincup]

I have to believe any deal would be around Faulk for Crawford.

Hawks would have no point in trading for Faulk if they move Crawford

Moving Crawford would be a white flag trade

 

[Rick C137]

I'm only pointing out the backwards logic when the selling low argument is made.

If I had my way, we'd just keep/resign Skinner and then move Faulk for an equivalent LHD.

There’s really no backwards logic because that’s not the only reason that deal doesn’t make sense. If it makes you feel better, I wouldn’t do Saad for Faulk even if Faulk had a terrific year and Saad had an even worse year. It doesn’t make sense to trade one of our best forwards for a two year rental in a position that we have one of the greater prospect pools in the nhl at RHD (and mostly PMDs like Faulk) when we’re not a Faulk away from being a legit cup contender. Realistically trading Saad for Faulk opens more holes than it fills.

The only reason the sell low argument was even made is I think it would be dumb to trade Saad for anyone right now (not JUST Faulk) as his value is at an all time low.

 

[Cardiac Jerks]

I have to believe any deal would be around Faulk for Crawford.

The only way Crawford is available is if his health is in question - in which case we don’t want him.

 

[puterwiz53]

The Hurricanes may want to unite Crawford with Darling in hopes of reviving Darling's game/career as Darling played really well as Crawford's backup. If the Hawks can move Crawford, they should do it and go after a goalie for a one or two year term until one of the rookies are ready to take over. This also helps free up cap space for other needs or some one coming back in the Crawford trade that helps fill a need.

 

[Voodoo Glow Skulls]

Faulk

For

Jokiharju
Hayden

 

[u2wojo]

Faulk

For

Jokiharju
Hayden

No chance on Jokiharju. At this point with Jokiharju, there is a chance he makes the team if he has a good camp based on his development and having a great last year in junior. There is always a chance he never even is as good as what Faulk is, but I would think there is hope he will end up better and the Hawks are probably not giving away his entry level cheap contract years taking the chance he ends up as good or better in a year or two.

 

[Cardiac Jerks]

The Hurricanes may want to unite Crawford with Darling in hopes of reviving Darling's game/career as Darling played really well as Crawford's backup. If the Hawks can move Crawford, they should do it and go after a goalie for a one or two year term until one of the rookies are ready to take over. This also helps free up cap space for other needs or some one coming back in the Crawford trade that helps fill a need.

Why would the hawks move Crawford? Who’s your starter if they do?

 

[Unsustainable]

Why would the hawks move Crawford? Who’s your starter if they do?

Ward

 

[thesaadfather]

The Hurricanes may want to unite Crawford with Darling in hopes of reviving Darling's game/career as Darling played really well as Crawford's backup. If the Hawks can move Crawford, they should do it and go after a goalie for a one or two year term until one of the rookies are ready to take over. This also helps free up cap space for other needs or some one coming back in the Crawford trade that helps fill a need.

What rookies? There’s no one in the Hawks’ system even close to looking like an NHL starting goalie. Crawford is the Hawks’ most important player. They shouldn’t trade him.

Why would the hawks move Crawford? Who’s your starter if they do?

Bingo.

Ward

Yuck

 

[Dr Quincy]

IMO, Forsling and a 2nd is not a low ball offer at all.

Forsling has big potential, and a 2nd in next years draft could be as high as 35.

What are you expecting for Faulk?

Neutral fan- It's a ridiculously low offer.

 

[Ori]

Go for it!

 

[Voodoo Glow Skulls]

No chance on Jokiharju. At this point with Jokiharju, there is a chance he makes the team if he has a good camp based on his development and having a great last year in junior. There is always a chance he never even is as good as what Faulk is, but I would think there is hope he will end up better and the Hawks are probably not giving away his entry level cheap contract years taking the chance he ends up as good or better in a year or two.

Was taking the position of the Blackhawks wanted to still compete. Would including Anisimov be an option in a re-worked deal?

 

[Kaners PPGs]

Anisimov + 2019 2nd for Faulk and Darling (no retention)

3 assets for Faulk. If something like this is not good enough, walk away.

 

[Chan790]

Anisimov + 2019 2nd for Faulk and Darling (no retention)

3 assets for Faulk. If something like this is not good enough, walk away.

For some reason, the Canes are 100% on bringing back Darling. We don't need (or probably even want) Anisimov. So only the 2nd is really an asset here...and it's not much.

Totally wrong kind of offer. Think the Canes are looking for a Faulk for "top-4 LHD" deal.

 

[Joe McGrath]

It will be a Decent prospect like Forsling and a 2nd or something to that effect.

Counter point, no it won’t.

 

[koyvoo]

Need a D who can play D

 

[Henkka]

Why would the hawks move Crawford? Who’s your starter if they do?

Ward

I laughed.