Chiarelli or Holland

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which GM would you rather have on your team?

  1. Chiarelli

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  2. Holland

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  1. DominicBoltsFan

    DominicBoltsFan Diving back into you

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    Which GM would you rather have on your team?

    I'm gonna pick Chia but damn these are two awful managers.

    NO im not making a neither option. dont want a landslide result.
     
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    Fire Chiarelli
    I would rather have a piece of toast as GM than Chiarelli.
     
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    holland i guess
     
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    As a Red Wings Fan, Holland would probably trade much less. So Hall/Eberle would likely still be around. Not sure if that team would be better
     
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    Would take a chance on a hfboards poster over Chiarelli
     
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    the answer is pretty much always anyone but Chiarelli
     
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    Holland would probably have to deal either one of them because of the 6 year $20M full NMC contracts he would give to Kassian and Letestu.
     
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    Holland has made some stupid decisions, but he's nowhere near Chiarelli's level of stupid and has also had way more success.

    Basically would you rather have a dummy that overpays mediocre players or a dummy that trades away superstars for crap.
     
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    yeah

    detroits defense is just horrendous though
     
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    So basically John Chayka :laugh:

    Neither GM has never been thru a full re-build but Holland always hired the right scouts and the right people to keep his team in the playoffs. He was a once in a lifetime save from Fleury away from back to back cups. 97/98 were pretty much built by Devellano (with help from Holland) but his work in the 2000's was great.

    By wasting McDavid's ELC years, Chia has really hurt the reputation he built in Boston.

    Its funny seeing Oilers fans hate on him after praising him like a God a year ago.
     
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    Holland kept the Red Wings in the playoffs for 2 decades since he took over as GM.
    Saying he is a dummy is the dumbest crap I've ever seen on here.
     
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    Fahlin4Dahlin, bud.

    Honestly though, this draft is where Holland can go a long way to redeem himself. Deep on defense and they're loaded with picks.
     
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    Holland for me.
     
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    Has Holland ever made a trade as bad as hall for larsson?

    seguin for 50 cents on the dollar?
     
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    Hollands issue is more that hes super passive. But at the very least hes not trading away assets left and right.
     
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    The Weiss contract was awful but Chia has handed out far worse.
     
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    Most GMs tend to be pretty passive.

    Peter Chiarelli is an excellent example of the reason why.
     
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    Holland deserves to be given a chance to rebuild.

    Did he hold out too long?

    Maybe the wings should have rebuilt probably a decade ago.

    Saying hes the worst gm in hockey?

    Sorry no he's not and far from it.

    He's a hall of fame builder and kept his team in the playoffs for years.
     
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    Holland only overpays for FAs, where as Chiarelli both over pays for FAs AND gets fleeced in trades.
     
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    lol, looks like you got a landslide result anyway!
     
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    The Red Wings should have rebuilt in 2008 when they were the presidents trophy winners and stanley cup champions?
     
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    I feel like Holland doesn't get nearly enough hate. He's been coasting on the absurd 90s draft steals of Lidstrom, Datsyuk and Zetterberg for years, which has finally fizzled out. He's been responsible for some of the worst signings in recent memory.
     
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    Pretty much. Maybe he was holding on because of ilitch. Yeah he overpays, no one is defending that. Id be curious to see how he does rebuilding a team. (Hopefully not the red wings though lol)
     
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    I don't see Holland as that bad of a GM. He's not a great one, but he's not bad. Detroit was overdue for a rebuild -- I don't think you can pin all of their failures this year on their GM.

    Chiarelli on the other hand....
     
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    Trafalgar McLaw Waive Peter Chiarelli

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    Ken Holland is an absolute moron and very few GMs in the NHL are worse than him.

    Peter Chiarelli is one of those.

    This is like comparing somebody who struggles in school to a mentally disabled gerbil in terms of intelligence. Ken Holland may have poor grades across the board, but Chiarelli fails those same categories spectacularly.
     
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