Confirmed Trade: [CHI/FLA] B. Connolly, R. Stillman, H. Borgstrom, '21 7th for L. Wallmark, L. Carlsson

[Dallasman]

I'm hearing rumors it might be Keith.
If he'd waive for anyone, it would be Q.

That would be something...

 

[Drumman44]

I'm hearing rumors it might be Keith.
If he'd waive for anyone, it would be Q.

Actual rumors or my out loud bullshitting?

 

[TheLegendOfPatPeake]

I mean, it worked. Dude got paid.

No doubt. I just think fit wise he would still be an important player in WSH and nearing 20 goals a season.

 

[Whileee]

Florida has tons of cap space.

Owners want to save money.

 

[Kaners Bald Spot]

Actual rumors or my out loud bullshitting?

Eklund so take with a huge grain of salt.

 

[FinlandPanther]

Bad for Florida real bad

How is that bad? Connolly is out of favor and stillman needs a change of scenery.

 

[violaswallet]

I'm hearing rumors it might be Keith.
If he'd waive for anyone, it would be Q.

Source?

 

[Kaners Bald Spot]

Source?

Eklund so TIFWIW.

 

[JEFFREY87]

Can we just give Zito the GM of the yr award yet? Thanks for dumping Brett! Next Yandle somehow someway.

 

[Gizmo Tkachuk]

Would Keith waive his NMC to come to Florida?

Also don't see Zito picking up another D to protect.

 

[BKarchitect]

I would think CdH more than Zadorov. This is not an impressive package from Florida as Connolly is a salary dump and Stillman is an ok but low upside defender who has been lapped on their blueline depth chart and won’t be missed at all.

Seems a low price to grab a more established defender. Not sure why Florida would have any heartburn giving these guys up for immediate help. I would hope to see a pick stapled in there too if I’m Chicago and I’m taking on Connollys contract for two more seasons.

 

[CanadianHawks]

I can see Sodaberg, De Haan being guys Q would like

 

[Bevans]

Surprised at all these suggestions. Why would the hawks be giving away RFA D or ones with term that are regulars?

Panthers are paying Hawks to do them a favour. How in the world would the best player in the trade go from Hawks to Panthers? And why would the scrubs leak to the media before the main course of the trade?

DeHaan, Murphy, and Zadorov are nowhere near this trade.

Expect some token piece going to Panthers and pick(s)/prospect(s) accompanying Connolly and Stillman to the Hawks.

Edit: Keith would be interesting though.

 

[Ted Hoffman]

yep, knee jerk response, here, is often "but he coulda been gotten for free..."

however, these considerations often also apply
- a guy who has cleared waivers can be assigned to taxi squad or AHL
- with flat cap, teams much prefer some salary going out when some new salary comes in ...

Correct. This goes as far back as ... well, the start of the salary cap era. WHY WOULD ANYONE TRADE FOR ____, HE JUST GOT WAIVED - YOU COULD HAVE HAD HIM FOR FREE!

Yeah, teams could have. They don't because they don't have the cap space to absorb a $3 million, $4 million, $5 million contract straight-up. That's why those guys clear waivers. Their team is hoping someone will take him for nothing because they also want to clear cap space themselves.

Thus, it really shouldn't surprise anyone when a player who was waived and clears gets traded. That's what happens in the salary cap world. What should surprise someone is when one of those players does get claimed. It's going to be exceedingly rare, for reasons I noted above.

 

[w e l o s t b o y s]

Surprised at all these suggestions. Why would the hawks be giving away RFA D or ones with term that are regulars?

Panthers are paying Hawks to do them a favour. How in the world would the best player in the trade go from Hawks to Panthers? And why would the scrubs leak to the media before the main course of the trade?

DeHaan, Murphy, and Zadorov are nowhere near this trade.

Expect some token piece going to Panthers and pick(s)/prospect(s) accompanying Connolly and Stillman to the Hawks.

Edit: Keith would be interesting though.

We don't know the details of the deal, just two names in it. There can still be more on Florida's end

 

[Gizmo Tkachuk]

Surprised at all these suggestions. Why would the hawks be giving away RFA D or ones with term that are regulars?

Panthers are paying Hawks to do them a favour. How in the world would the best player in the trade go from Hawks to Panthers? And why would the scrubs leak to the media before the main course of the trade?

DeHaan, Murphy, and Zadorov are nowhere near this trade.

Expect some token piece going to Panthers and pick(s)/prospect(s) accompanying Connolly and Stillman to the Hawks.

Edit: Keith would be interesting though.

We don't know the complete deal on what Florida is offering either. Final trade might not be just Connolly and Stillman, although don't expect any other FLA regular involved.

 

[BKarchitect]

Surprised at all these suggestions. Why would the hawks be giving away RFA D or ones with term that are regulars?

Panthers are paying Hawks to do them a favour. How in the world would the best player in the trade go from Hawks to Panthers? And why would the scrubs leak to the media before the main course of the trade?

DeHaan, Murphy, and Zadorov are nowhere near this trade.

Expect some token piece going to Panthers and pick(s)/prospect(s) accompanying Connolly and Stillman to the Hawks.

Edit: Keith would be interesting though.

Yeah at first I was like what if it was Connolly and Stillman for some meaningless conditional pick and Stillman was just payment for taking BC but I don’t think that’s a very rewarding incentive if you have BC on the books for two more years and Stillman has stagnated. That’s just adding contracts and money when you’ve got a bunch of RFAs coming up to sign and we know how much GMs are valuing cap space and flexibility right now.

Let alone adding a player who should at least have some positive value in CdH or definitely not Zadorov or Murphy unless there is much more of value coming back from Florida.

 

[MMC]

 

[Gizmo Tkachuk]

What's a Lucas Carlsson?

 

[Pinkfloyd]

Should be interesting to see what else is involved here. If Chicago is getting Connolly and Stillman, you'd think they'd be sending back salary or Florida is paying something more to move Connolly because Stillman isn't much in terms of value, imo.

 

[Gospel of Prospal]

What's a Lucas Carlsson?

I believe he's an old, old wooden ship used primarily in the Civil War era

 

[Gizmo Tkachuk]

Yeah probably more likely to be Wallmark.

You win this round

 

[Svechnicanes]

So basically Stillman and Borgstrom for Cap Space? Wallmark has a weird Team history at this point, lol

 

[SomeDude]

I'm hearing rumors it might be Keith.
If he'd waive for anyone, it would be Q.

Dreger-esque sources.

 

[iam76]

noooo wallmark is backk.... why