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Discussion in 'New York Rangers' started by aufheben, Mar 13, 2020.

  1. Hawkman You're damn right I've got the Blues

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    Although the move order was transposed, you were correct that Nepo played a d4 opening, English Opening: Anglo-Indian. I love the chess.com analysis and openings options. I'm also rooting for Giri, because I'm Dutch. Nepo and Giri are 3 & 4 now in the live ratings.
     
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    Nepo wins with a round to spare.
     
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    Sure! For tomorrow's games?
     
  4. Hawkman You're damn right I've got the Blues

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    Sorry. I meant the World Championship.
     
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    Ah, I gotchya, that makes more sense haha.

    For sure. I'll have to give it some thought.

    I suspect that Carlsen is going to do some more narrowed prep for Nepo than he did for Caruana. Against Fabi, he opened with c4, e4, and d4 in each of the first three games to feel him out and keep him a little off balance; I think his gameplan was always to play as safe as possible and be satisfied with getting to rapid tiebreaks where he had a huge advantage.

    Nepo, whether as strong as 2018 Fabi or not, is probably going to require Carlsen to narrow his preparation in a little more ahead of time.

    I may wait to see what they play in some other events this year, and eliminate those openings from the running haha
     
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    Similarly to when Valiquette and Giannone pick someone like Blackwell to score for the Rangers, I am picking the Kadas and the Ware opening.
     
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    lmao, I had to Google the Kadas Opening. Had never even heard the name before.

    I'm most interested to see what Nepo's defense against Carlsen's wide bongcloud repertoire is going to be.
     
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    Gun to my head right now, I think Carlsen may try to avoid sharper Sicilian lines at the start of the match.

    Nepo's first white game becomes a Ruy Lopez, and Carlsen's a Queen's Gambit Declined.
     
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  9. Hawkman You're damn right I've got the Blues

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    Another change I'd like to see in 2700+ plus tourneys is 0 points for draws. It would have a double bonus. Players would play for wins to get cash and they they would not try to save draws, because draws would offer no benefit.

    Edit: Wang Hao retired!
     
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  10. Hawkman You're damn right I've got the Blues

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    "Fischer, Karpov and Kortschnoi
    4/29/2021 – If Bobby Fischer had not retired after becoming World Champion in 1972 we would have seen a decade dominated by Fischer, Anatoly Karpov and Viktor Kortschnoi. What would have happened, if there had been a match Fischer - Karpov or Fischer - Kortschnoi? And why did Fischer not play against Karpov in 1975? And how would Fischer's decision have turned out if the challenger had not been Karpov, but Kortschnoi? Some thoughts by Stephan Oliver Platz." Fischer, Karpov and Kortschnoi | ChessBase

    My top 4 all time may be Kasparov, Fisher, Carlsen, and Karpov. Kortschnoi may be my best non-champ.
     
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  12. Hawkman You're damn right I've got the Blues

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    "New in Chess Classic Finals - Live!
    5/1/2021 – Hikaru Nakamura and Magnus Carlsen qualified to the finals of the New in Chess Classic by beating Shakhriyar Mamedyarov and Levon Aronian respectively in the semifinals. A great rivalry between Naka and Carlsen has developed during the online-tournament era. Read the full report on an exciting day 2 of the semis. | The action kicks off daily at 19:00 CEST." New in Chess Classic Finals - Live! | ChessBase2

    This will be great! The 2 best speed players in the world, the Champ and the former #2 at classical speed, against each other. The winner will play @Harbour Dog ;)
     
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    Watching this right now. Nakamura pushing hard in the last game to try to tie the day's match.
     
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    "New in Chess Classic Finals: Carlsen wins first set
    5/2/2021 – In a hard-fought first set of the New in Chess Classic finals, Magnus Carlsen grabbed the lead by scoring a 3-1 win over Hikaru Nakamura. After drawing the first two games and losing the third encounter, Naka had a better position in a must-win situation. The American mishandled his advantage and Carlsen ended up scoring a second win in a row. Meanwhile, Shakhriyar Mamedyarov and Levon Aronian tied the first set in the match for third place. | Photo: Lennart Ootes" New in Chess Classic Finals: Carlsen wins first set | ChessBase
     
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    Absolutely bonkers to me that this dude is pulling out come from behind wins in a chess final while glancing over at a soccer game
     
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    That first game between Nakamura and Carlsen today was crazy.
     
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  17. Hawkman You're damn right I've got the Blues

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    I can't wait to read this. @Harbour Dog

    "Magnus Carlsen about Fischer, Karpov, Kasparov, Kramnik, Anand, Polgar and himself

    On Sunday, 2 May, Magnus Carlsen won the New in Chess Classic Online Tournament, the first of the so far five Meltwater Champions Chess Tour tournaments the World Champion, who is as spoilt for success as he is hungry for it, could win. But Carlsen did not only entertain and impress at the board (or screen). In short video clips, shown during the live broadcast, he revealed what he thinks about previous World Champions and showed his amazing chess memory." Magnus Carlsen about Fischer, Karpov, Kasparov, Kramnik, Anand, Polgar and himself | ChessBase
     
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    Whoa, I came looking for Tom Wilson rage and found a chess thread. Nice!
     
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    Fischer will probably always be the most captivating name in Chess. It's too bad he seemed to suffer from mental issues. The guy was self taught and his record in US Championships will probably never be equaled.
     
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  20. Hawkman You're damn right I've got the Blues

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    He beat the Soviet Empire/USSR by himself. I like Fisher and Kasparov over Carlsen, because they played original chess and for most of Kasparov's career he was better than AI thus his games were the go to reference for the top GMs.
     
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    I think Fischer is more intriguing than Carlsen but the game of chess has evolved a lot since the peak of Fischer. If you could transport peak Fischer, and have him play peak Carlsen, it would heavily favor Carlsen. I even view Fischer as having been likely the most naturally gifted at chess. Ratings aside, it's also possible at Fischer's peak he was a much better player vs the rest of the world than Carlsen ever will be. It's extremely difficult when comparing GM's of different eras and the GM's themselves struggle with those comparisons.

    I'm looking forward to Carlsen vs Nepo. Nepo seems to be hitting his peak while Carlsen has had his share of recent struggles (the last tournament notwithstanding).
     
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  22. Hawkman You're damn right I've got the Blues

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    "Throwback Thursday: Wesley So makes it past 2800
    5/6/2021 – Wesley So has proven to be capable of beating any player from the elite, including world champion Magnus Carlsen. The Filipino-born grandmaster, currently representing the United States, obtained his highest-ever live rating in April 2017, following a streak of remarkable results in the elite circuit. We look back at the successes that helped the ever-humble star to reach the second spot in the world ranking." Throwback Thursday: Wesley So makes it past 2800 | ChessBase

    This is a throwback story. He's #8 in the live ratings.
     
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    Regarding Fischer...

    Of all the GREAT players, Fischer had the LEAST support - Casablanca may be the exception and Paul Morphy if you want to go way back. The Russians had an entire system and current players have computers. Fischer had himself in his little NY apartment. For that, he will always deserve to be considered one of the all time greats.

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    As for Nepo vs Carlsen...

    Nepo scored some EARLY(!) victories, he's playing really well, and he does have the man-bun, but don't expect a change of world champion in 2021. The tournament format favours Carlsen against everyone but Nakamura.

    Of course, if Carlsen played Nakamura for the world championship, it would never get to the tie breaker. That's why Magnus will be on top for the considerable future.
     
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    The player with the best chance of beating Magnus is Giri - and even then, Magnus would be a large favourite.

    Fabi has little to no chance because Magnus can play for draws - knowing Fabi has NO chance of winning the tie-breaker.

    I would LOVE to see Dubov make a run but he has plateaued.
     
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    Sincere question...

    Anyone else ever look at Giri's wife and think, "How did he get her?"
     

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