Navin R Slavin
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Well. Sounds like maybe Fleury is the straw that stirs the drink there.
Checkers III: The Age of Ulf
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Seth Jarvis is Elite
Fluery out 7 games, they lose 7 games.
Comes back and win back to back.
Comes back and win back to back.
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mgxu
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Was at the game last night wasn't the best game for the Checkers to say the least.
1. Terrible possession of the puck
2. Terrible passes
3. Gave the Griffins way too many chances well at least 6 goals worth
1. Terrible possession of the puck
2. Terrible passes
3. Gave the Griffins way too many chances well at least 6 goals worth
WreckingCrew
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Yea, it was embarrassing on every level of the game, there was literally nothing good they did as a team. I will say Tolchinsky played pretty well, about the only player who looked like he actually cared or tried. I also hope it was just a bad game for Fleury because he was noticeable in theseveral bad ways: 1) caught standing around/lost, 2) shots off the player inches in front of him, 3) couldn't keep the puck in at the blue line, even when the puck was slowly passed to him, 4) couldn't keep the front of the net clear and was out-muscled by guys 6 inches shorter and significantly smaller than him. That said, you could apply all that to 90% of the team last night. Both goalies made some good saves, both had 1-2 softies, but both were left completely out to dry. Grand Rapids is a really good team, but even when they sat back we looked like an ECHL team who couldn't make an open ice pass to a wide open player, it was embarrassing and pitiful.
mgxu
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Did you see #31 in the beginning? He got pulled after like 3 straight goals then they put #30 in after that it wasn't too bad but they still scored 3.
WreckingCrew
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I did, Altsy was pretty rough, but I would only say 1 was really on him, he was totally left out to dry by the team. Neds came in and I think his first goal was a soft slow floater he totally missed glove side that was a major softie. He started playing better most of the rest of the game, his athleticism helped him with a few great saves for sure, but he's got a lot to work on so he doesn't have to rely purely on that (he seems to be pretty good at first saves/chances but his recovery is slow). I still think he would benefit from more starts in the ECHL vs getting lit up constantly in the AHL which has got to be killing his confidence. Unfortunately, with as bad as the team has been this year Leighton is the only goalie who can save them
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CandyCanes
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Took them long enough to figure this out. But Ned got sent to the ECHL and Altshuller has been called up.
Dishface
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Ned's size makes him a longshot to be an impact NHL goalie IMO. How many 5'11" goalies are there in the NHL? (Ok, he's "officially" listed as 6'0")
Looking at the list of 75 NHL starting/backup goalies that have played in the NHL this year, there are only 8 that are listed as 6'0" and under:
Jhonas Enroth 5'10"
Juuse Saros 5'11"
Jaroslav Halak 5'11"
Anton Khudobin 5'11"
Aaron Dell 6'0"
Jonathan Bernier 6'0"
Antti Raanta 6'0"
Dustin Tokarski 6'0"
Looking at the list of 75 NHL starting/backup goalies that have played in the NHL this year, there are only 8 that are listed as 6'0" and under:
Jhonas Enroth 5'10"
Juuse Saros 5'11"
Jaroslav Halak 5'11"
Anton Khudobin 5'11"
Aaron Dell 6'0"
Jonathan Bernier 6'0"
Antti Raanta 6'0"
Dustin Tokarski 6'0"
RodTheBawd
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That's the land right next to Rivendell in middle earth.
NotOpie
"Puck don't lie"
tarheelhockey
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Not exactly a list of world beaters either.
I'm no expert on Ned, but I suspect that he compensated for his size at lower levels by doing things that simply won't work against professionals.
Joe McGrath
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So we have both Mike Murphy 2.0 and RyanMurphy 2.0 in the system now? **** me.
NotOpie
"Puck don't lie"
My take is give Ned 10-20 games against lower level competition to get his confidence back. Keep coaching him up and see if he responds. Then give him another shot at the Checkers.
Throwing him into the morass in Charlotte was a mistake in my opinion.
Cardiac Jerks
Asinine & immoral
Leighton is the checkers lone representative in the all star game.
Anton Babchuk
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The Checkers were doing just fine until Leighton got called up and Nedeljkovic played like absolute trash for fifteen games. He wasn't "thrown into" anything either--they signed a proven AHL netminder for pretty much the sole purpose of him not having to carry the burden (which a lot of people disagreed with because WJC or something). Unfortunately Lack got hurt.
The writing was on the wall with Ned's OHL numbers. Not only were they bad in his last season, but they had gotten progressively worse from year to year. When someone's having a significantly worse season in their draft+2 year than they are in their draft year, that's a huge red flag. People here decided to ignore it because of some stretches of good play.
Now, maybe he turns it around. Who knows. But making any future plans for this team based on around him would be a huge mistake. At this point he's a gigantic question mark.
Joe McGrath
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^ Make no mistake, Ned was terrible, but let's not pretend he's the reason they went into the ****ter. They're scoring less goals per game than every other team in the league. That's a much bigger organizational issue than 1 goalie that might be a bust.
NotOpie
"Puck don't lie"
My point wasn't that Ned was the savior, only that he was indeed thrown into a ****** situation. The Checker's blueline has been shouldering significant injuries most of the season, so Ned saw a lot of high danger shots....and he just wasn't ready. It has clearly gotten into his head because one of his strengths, positioning, seems to be significantly off. Sending him down a level to face lesser competition while he works on his mechanics is a potential remedy, not a guaranteed solution. Even though Altshuller hasn't proven to be the solution, in the short term he's the one who should have been cast into the abyss. Signing Motte could have been done at nearly any time, so acquiring and AHL/ECHL backup/tweener shouldn't ever be considered an issue.
I've never felt Nedeljkovic was the heir apparent and agree that his regular season play in Flint/Niagara was less than encouraging. At the beginning of the year he was a solid prospect and likely remains something akin to that now. The organization should be happy that Francis wasn't convinced of Ned's bona fides despite GMRF's public statements. His drafting of Booth followed by LaFontaine and Helvig are proof of just that.
Eye of Ra
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whats the deal with erik karlsson? stats-wise he seems to struggling very much, how is he playing-wise? and no i am not talking about the player in ottawa.
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CandyCanes
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Seems like a utility guy in the AHL, doubt he ever steps foot on NHL ice.
DaveG
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He's more of a defensive forward anyway, but I have to think he's behind PDG, Wallmark, and Brown in that regard to begin with when it comes to getting a look at the NHL.
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