Trade: [CHC/TEX] Cole Hamels for Eddie Butler, Rollie Lacy and Alexander Ovalles

[MMC]

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[John Price]

 

[John Price]

 

[John Price]

 

[Cubs2024WSChamps]

Big game pitcher for scraps?

Why yes... Yes please and thank you

 

[Sports Enthusiast]

The f*** is Epstein doing? Maybe 5 years ago....

 

[hockeykicker]

Big game pitcher for scraps?

Why yes... Yes please and thank you

Sorry, what?

 

[Halladay]

Cole is terrible now. Wish him the best of luck though.

 

[MMC]

Cole is terrible now. Wish him the best of luck though.

He'll be fine getting out of Arlington. Cubs don't need him to be anything more than a solid 4.

 

[Sports Enthusiast]

He'll be fine getting out of Arlington. Cubs don't need him to be anything more than a solid 4.

Youre assuming Hendricks and Quintana wake up or that Darvish comes back?

 

[Say Hey Kid]

I think this hurts the Cubs.

 

[MMC]

Cubs gave up nothing

 

[Terry Yake]

rollie lacy

great name

how is this all the cubs had to give up?

 

[Marc the Habs Fan]

Lacy has some pretty solid numbers. The issue is he just turned 23...and he's in A ball.

 

[Cubs2024WSChamps]

Sorry, what?

Hmm. Big game pitcher?
Great NL stats?
Back in NL?
Better WAR then Bryce Harper while pitching in a bandbox?

That guy Hamels?

Cubs got a solid vet for nothing. I'm loving this trade.

 

[Otto]

He's an improvement to what the Cubs currently have and cost very little. Good move

 

[AtlantaWhaler]

rollie lacy

great name

how is this all the cubs had to give up?

I guess the Cubs are eating a larger chunk of $$?

 

[Deen]

Rollie Lacy sounds like a game you teach children to tie their shoes.

 

[Marc the Habs Fan]

I guess the Cubs are eating a larger chunk of $$?

His salary is 23.5 M. Phillies are paying 2.5 M of that. So the Rangers were on the hook for 21 M, a 1/3 of the season remains essentially, so 7 M was left to be paid.

But there is also a 6 M payment when his option is not picked up this winter (unless for some reason the Cubs want to pay him 20 M), so I don't know if that is 100% on the Cubs.

 

[Voight]

Hmm. Big game pitcher?
Great NL stats?
Back in NL?
Better WAR then Bryce Harper while pitching in a bandbox?

That guy Hamels?

Cubs got a solid vet for nothing. I'm loving this trade.

- he hasn't had good playoff stats in 7 years
- "great NL stats" ... yea 3/4 years ago when he was younger
- Its already a to compare pitchers & position players with WAR, but its not shocking he has more than Harper considering he started his career 6 seasons earlier.

 

[UNB Bruins Fan]

Hamels has more WAR than Harper this season....but not sure what that has anything to do with anything....just means they have both been pretty bad this year so far.

 

[Marc the Habs Fan]

Eddie Butler is in the deal.

 

[Filthy Dangles]

pretty drastic home/road splits. whether it means anything I don't know.

6.41 ERA in Arlington vs 2.93 ERA on the Road.

no time table for Darvish to return and Cole is definitely a more reliable starter than Mike Montgomery and probably Chatwood too.

 

[Cubs2024WSChamps]

Let's just bump this bad boy.

Cole looked.....pretty damn solid in his debut.

Hamels WAR 1.0
Harper WAR .6

 

[Halladay]

Good start by Cole.