Player Discussion Charlie McAvoy VI re-signed, 8 yrs @ 9.5 aav

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With the talk that Grz could be a potential partner for McAvoy next year I took a look at his advanced numbers with an away from McAvoy over the last two years. I also looked at Chara's numbers over the same time to see how they stacked up.

CF% WithCF% W/OSF% WithSF% W/OGF% WithGF% W/OxGF% WithxGF% W/OSCF% WithSCF% W/OHDCF% WithHDCF% W/O
Zdeno Chara50.7958.9552.1659.0859.3253.4553.0260.6251.7460.6251.1960.09
Matt Grzelcyk57.5151.1456.7852.1751.4358.8261.1353.5359.5952.6460.3952.4
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Crazy to see the difference in the advanced stats between the two.
 

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With the talk that Grz could be a potential partner for McAvoy next year I took a look at his advanced numbers with an away from McAvoy over the last two years. I also looked at Chara's numbers over the same time to see how they stacked up.

CF% WithCF% W/OSF% WithSF% W/OGF% WithGF% W/OxGF% WithxGF% W/OSCF% WithSCF% W/OHDCF% WithHDCF% W/O
Zdeno Chara50.7958.9552.1659.0859.3253.4553.0260.6251.7460.6251.1960.09
Matt Grzelcyk57.5151.1456.7852.1751.4358.8261.1353.5359.5952.6460.3952.4
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Crazy to see the difference in the advanced stats between the two.

Probably explains why Chara isn't signed yet.

Gryz-McAvoy will be a mobile, offensively-talented pair with a tremendous breakout ability, though will be susceptible to the big bruising lines like what Tampa threw at us last year.
 

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Probably explains why Chara isn't signed yet.

Gryz-McAvoy will be a mobile, offensively-talented pair with a tremendous breakout ability, though will be susceptible to the big bruising lines like what Tampa threw at us last year.

We out-hit Tampa last year in our playoff series
 

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Probably explains why Chara isn't signed yet.

Gryz-McAvoy will be a mobile, offensively-talented pair with a tremendous breakout ability, though will be susceptible to the big bruising lines like what Tampa threw at us last year.

I am not sure Gryz can't handle that. He gets smeared a lot less than Krug did because he is so agile on his skates. He will take a bit of a beating, but that can be offset by the fact that Charlie will not have to be retrieving pucks for him- Gryz also took some beatings because he was often paired with the less mobile Miller, or the inexperienced often out of position Conor Clifton.
 

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I am not sure Gryz can't handle that. He gets smeared a lot less than Krug did because he is so agile on his skates. He will take a bit of a beating, but that can be offset by the fact that Charlie will not have to be retrieving pucks for him- Gryz also took some beatings because he was often paired with the less mobile Miller, or the inexperienced often out of position Conor Clifton.
True that they will benefit from playing with each other and make each other better. Plus McAvoy is a lot tougher than he looks on the surface. I think playing with Chara for 4 years makes us think he's smaller than he actually is.
 
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True that they will benefit from playing with each other and make each other better. Plus McAvoy is a lot tougher than he looks on the surface. I think playing with Chara for 4 years makes us think he's smaller than he actually is.

Not too long ago, he knocked Jordan Staal on his ass.
 
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Bruins got absolutely boned by COVID and their sweetheart contracts.

They have essentially lost a full season and that means they’ve lost a season on McAvoy and Pastrnak.
 

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If he had a better shot, he would have finished top 5 in Norris votes. Seems silly, but that's the reality. Working the top unit PP will help his numbers but his shot has always been the one below average ( for an elite dman ) part of his game that he needs to work on.
 

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he needs to be on the top PP plain and simple . Krug is gone , no need to try and replicate the pp with Gryz , i mean krugs shot was horrible from the point lastr few years cant see Chuck being any worse
 

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he needs to be on the top PP plain and simple . Krug is gone , no need to try and replicate the pp with Gryz , i mean krugs shot was horrible from the point lastr few years cant see Chuck being any worse

Charlie hasn't been very good running a PP. His best chances tend to be on the PP but rushing the puck.
 

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has he ever had a decent look running the top pp unit? wonder how krug would look running the 2nd unit?

Krug would look fine because he is better at it. Charlie doesn't have a threatening shot from the point and overall is just not great there. Not a skill set of his. I suspect Gryz gets first shot next year.
 

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His next contract is probably going to be closer to 10 than to 7 million AAV. Will probably go above 10 if he manages to win a Norris in 2021 or 2022.
 
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10 points in 11 games and only 3 of those on the PP so he's getting it done at evens.

17th in the NHL in TOI (but has at least one game where he played like 28 mins).

Defensively elite.

If he's not in the Norris conversation (top 5) by season's end then I'll be pissed.
 
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Not getting enough attention this year, but hopefully that changes around awards season.

Just shy of a PPG even though he doesn’t get much PP time and eats all of the hard minutes. Look at the defensive play he made in OT, turned it into the game winning goal.

The kids have been great but he’s an absolute horse offensively and defensively. He’ll be in the Norris discussion. So lucky to have him.
 

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Not getting enough attention this year, but hopefully that changes around awards season.

Just shy of a PPG even though he doesn’t get much PP time and eats all of the hard minutes. Look at the defensive play he made in OT, turned it into the game winning goal.

The kids have been great but he’s an absolute horse offensively and defensively. He’ll be in the Norris discussion. So lucky to have him.

He's been fantastic. The fact that he's leading an extremely young D (Miller aside), by far the leader in ice time, playing in all situations 8 game assist streak (last to do it for the B's Raymond in 92-93) and basically a PPG without getting the PP time he deserves... the guys is an absolute STALLION. That play to end it last night is the perfect example... 2 on 1 in OT... play it PERFECTLY.... baits the guy with the puck to make the cross ice pass, anticipates it perfectly, knocks it down and knows Marchy is ahead for a breakaway. Norris Trophy type stuff for sure.
 
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