Player Discussion Charlie McAvoy V signs 3 year $4.9m extension

[LSCII]

If that hit happened to a Bruins player, this place would be going nuts screaming for a suspension and that it was only called a 2 minute minor. Simple as that.

McAvoy was dumb. He did it, he elevated up and his initial and entire contact was with the dude's head. It's not even something you can argue.

And for the guy that was saying anyone that has an issue with that hit was clutching their pearls, your take is literally embarrassing. It was a clear cut cheap shot. He made full contact with Anderson's head. You can like physical hockey, fighting, big hits, etc... and still not be a fan of predatory BS like this. It was a dirty play and he used Chara as a screen so Anderson didn't see him coming.

 

[Gonzothe7thDman]

Crazy how you read 25+ fan bases boards and somehow the league is out to get them all.

 

[Gordon Lightfoot]

Crazy how you read 25+ fan bases boards and somehow the league is out to get them all.

But we have Jacobs on our side. So we will always win.

 

[CharasLazyWrister]

Crazy how you read 25+ fan bases boards and somehow the league is out to get them all.

Our fan base (partially) is included in that.

Refs are also out to get them all. So are announcers. Also, the government.







And the CDC.


In all seriousness, it’s truly embarrassing there is such a large contingent of fans who legitimately believe this childish stance.

 

[Mick Riddleton]

The camera angle from the stands shows chest contact first then a follow through to the head. Not sure what they will do but one game is okay, either Kampf or Moore will step in, maybe Lauzon.

 

[CharasLazyWrister]

If that hit happened to a Bruins player, this place would be going nuts screaming for a suspension and that it was only called a 2 minute minor. Simple as that.

McAvoy was dumb. He did it, he elevated up and his initial and entire contact was with the dude's head. It's not even something you can argue.

And for the guy that was saying anyone that has an issue with that hit was clutching their pearls, your take is literally embarrassing. It was a clear cut cheap shot. He made full contact with Anderson's head. You can like physical hockey, fighting, big hits, etc... and still not be a fan of predatory BS like this. It was a dirty play and he used Chara as a screen so Anderson didn't see him coming.

There’s going to be a lot of people who do not agree with the tone here.

Regardless, however, the overall sentiment is dead on IMO. The play happens to a Bruins player and these “even keeled” takes from Bruins fans who apparently don’t see reason for discipline would obviously not exist.

 

[KrejciMVP]

A player with no history or intent who's just playing hard in a game 6. If it was intentional I wouldnt care about the 1 game but it's just hard nosed hockey with a bad result. McAvoy isnt Tom Wilson or Kadri here . No reason to alter the next series. Tell him to smarten up with a warning since this is a good learning opportunity for mcavoy

 

[LouJersey]

Crazy how you read 25+ fan bases boards and somehow the league is out to get them all.

Everyone: Bruins can play dirty because Greg Campbell's dad lets 'em
Bruins Fans: Not true there is no bias, you bunch of whiners

Bruins Fans: Get the control center out of Toronto, we are rivals with Toronto and the league hates us.
Everyone: Not true there is no bias, you bunch of whiners.

 

[00BW]

People need to calm down including the on-air guys. Suspension or not, they pushed for one and the league will look bad if it doesn't. Then again, Backes took an elbow to the head with no puck around and the PxP guys talked about suspension but Player Safety did not suspend Kukan so who knows.
Here is Sporting News talking about Kukan (but not in relation to McAvoy). 2 min, no injury, no suspension. But the thing I least expect from the NHL is applying rules equally, like goalie interference on goals. *Ahem*
Bruins' David Backes elbowed in face one day after Gary Bettman testifies headshots cannot be banned

What is difficult about this hit is it was 95% correct. The pic at the top of the post in the link below looks like a good hit is about to happen. Offensive player has puck on stick, skating forward, and the defensive player has his skate in between the offensive player's skates with his chest opened towards the hitter for what should be a through the body check. McAvoy even got in front of him so as not to board him. He got some center chest. Unfortunately, he was about 1/10th of a second too early and probably didn't get enough center mass chest before head contact. My guess is the last 5% of the hit will be enough for Player Safety to impose a 1 game suspension.
The Charlie McAvoy hit on Josh Anderson was called correctly by the book, which is a problem.

 

[LouJersey]

Our fan base (partially) is included in that.

Refs are also out to get them all. So are announcers. Also, the government.







And the CDC.


In all seriousness, it’s truly embarrassing there is such a large contingent of fans who legitimately believe this childish stance.

Not sure how long you've done the message board hockey thing, but in the early days it was pretty much the Habs fans whining constantly....Then 2011 came and they were joined by the Canucks....Then around 2013 the Leafs started to be good and it really exploded with the whining and constant thread starts about "should X be suspended".... Now sadly, the Bruins fans have joined the past few seasons (never thought I'd see that), especially with the officiating, which is terrible for every team.

 

[HumBucker]

Thank you.

Just saw DS's presser, and the way he said it makes it sound like Moore could play if necessary, but maybe not ideal. He said something like he's "available" but he's "dealing with a few things that make it difficult...." but yes, he's available. Hmmm.

 

[CharasLazyWrister]

Not sure how long you've done the message board hockey thing, but in the early days it was pretty much the Habs fans whining constantly....Then 2011 came and they were joined by the Canucks....Then around 2013 the Leafs started to be good and it really exploded with the whining and constant thread starts about "should X be suspended".... Now sadly, the Bruins fans have joined the past few seasons (never thought I'd see that), especially with the officiating, which is terrible for every team.

Been here since 2008. Fairly consistently. A while, but certainly not as long as you!

To me, it’s just becoming more widespread, league wide, for fan bases to constantly pitch conspiracy theories. For some people, it’s the default reaction to any ruling against their team. The immaturity is mind blowing.

Perhaps I am being unreasonable considering the thousands (millions?) of members on this board. Of course, the most vocal ones will be the conspiracy theorists.

 

[KrejciMVP]

Been here since 2008. Fairly consistently. A while, but certainly not as long as you!

To me, it’s just becoming more widespread, league wide, for fan bases to constantly pitch conspiracy theories. For some people, it’s the default reaction to any ruling against their team. The immaturity is mind blowing.

Perhaps I am being unreasonable considering the thousands (millions?) of members on this board. Of course, the most vocal ones will be the conspiracy theorists.

Bell Center refs favored the habs for decades. That's no conspiracy theory

 

[CharasLazyWrister]

Bell Center refs favored the habs for decades. That's no conspiracy theory

I know the term is hated by conspiracy theorists, but even if it is true, yes...it’s still a conspiracy theory.

 

[HockeyMomx2]

I know the term is hated by conspiracy theorists, but even if it is true, yes...it’s still a conspiracy theory.

If something is true, it is not a "theory", it is factual. Yes?

 

[CharasLazyWrister]

If something is true, it is not a "theory", it is factual. Yes?

Alright, that’s a good point.

 

[CharasLazyWrister]

Just saw DS's presser, and the way he said it makes it sound like Moore could play if necessary, but maybe not ideal. He said something like he's "available" but he's "dealing with a few things that make it difficult...." but yes, he's available. Hmmm.

Hmmm...

A 100% Kampfer or 60% Moore? It’s a pretty tough decision.

 

[bp13]

If that hit happened to a Bruins player, this place would be going nuts screaming for a suspension and that it was only called a 2 minute minor. Simple as that.

McAvoy was dumb. He did it, he elevated up and his initial and entire contact was with the dude's head. It's not even something you can argue.

And for the guy that was saying anyone that has an issue with that hit was clutching their pearls, your take is literally embarrassing. It was a clear cut cheap shot. He made full contact with Anderson's head. You can like physical hockey, fighting, big hits, etc... and still not be a fan of predatory BS like this. It was a dirty play and he used Chara as a screen so Anderson didn't see him coming.

So I think it's an exaggeration to call it a cheap shot, quite honestly, but overall I agree with your sentiment here. It's a hit the league is trying to eliminate, and putting himself in this situation to potentially be suspended was dumb. And further, if we're being honest, Charlie was running around a bit the entire series. Personally I have little issue with that as I think overall it serves to benefit the team, but there are risks, and this is one of them. In time he will likely learn the kind of hits he truly needs to either eliminate or pull up a bit on, and this feels like one.

Final point...this hit will be the thing folks remember about him from this series, but he was absolutely awesome this series, IMO. Notably in the last few games. IMO he was easily our best dman, with Carlo second, and I'm pumped for him if he can keep building his confidence.

 

[Bruin]

Posted this in another thread but figured this would be a good place to post it as well. Go to the :59 mark and watch the hit, Charlie clearly hits him in the chest and Naderson takes Chara's stick/hand to the face as well. If the league takes that view into consideration it's possible that he might not get suspended at all.

 

[Elmer]

Glass half full for me. He sits one game and gets some rest.

 

[CharasLazyWrister]

Posted this in another thread but figured this would be a good place to post it as well. Go to the :59 mark and watch the hit, Charlie clearly hits him in the chest and Naderson takes Chara's stick/hand to the face as well. If the league takes that view into consideration it's possible that he might not get suspended at all.

It is a very big impact on the jaw, and even if McAvoy is touching Andersen’s chest with his arm a split second prior, the heaviest impact is easily on the jaw. He also elevates up through the hit which never helps the offender’s case (he does not leave his feet until after contact).

I really don’t see a way out of a suspension here. Since it’s a guy with no history, one game seems appropriate.

 

[patty59]

If that hit happened to a Bruins player, this place would be going nuts screaming for a suspension and that it was only called a 2 minute minor. Simple as that.

McAvoy was dumb. He did it, he elevated up and his initial and entire contact was with the dude's head. It's not even something you can argue.

And for the guy that was saying anyone that has an issue with that hit was clutching their pearls, your take is literally embarrassing. It was a clear cut cheap shot. He made full contact with Anderson's head. You can like physical hockey, fighting, big hits, etc... and still not be a fan of predatory BS like this. It was a dirty play and he used Chara as a screen so Anderson didn't see him coming.

Ya, and he's probably been planning it for months too.

 

[LSCII]

Ya, and he's probably been planning it for months too.

You don't think he was aware of whom it was and how Anderson had been running players all series long? Seriously?

 

[McGarnagle]

Here's my hot take: Anderson had it coming.

 

[Bruinswillwin77]

Guessing 2 games