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Player Discussion Charlie McAvoy IV
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ON3M4N
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And McAvoy is playing at a similar level...scary to think about. A lot will be decided with how he plays this season (as I said before), but $6 to $7 million isn't crazy when you compare what he did last year to other guys that just signed deals as RFA's. If he turns out to be the player many think he'll be, would you rather pay him $6 to $7 million now for 8 years or would you rather pay him $4 million for 2-3 years, have him become exactly what people thought and suddenly you're looking at paying him even more. Here's a list of guy next year who will make between $6 & $7 million
Brent Seabrook
Mark Giordano
Kevin Shattenkirk
Cam Fowler
Alex Pietrangelo
Keith Yadle
Dion Phaneuf
Marc-Edouard Vlasic
Johnny Boychuk
Erik Johnson
Matthew Dumba
I left Karlsson and Doughty out because Doughty is going to $11 million after next year and Karlsson is going to be the same if not more. Is there anyone on this list that you'd rather have over McAvoy?
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TwineTickler
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Excellent post. I'd love Gio, Fowler, Pietrangelo, Dumba..... but factoring in the age and the potential ceiling, honestly no I wouldn't take any of those guys over Mac. As you said it depends how this year goes. If he continues the upward trajectory towards #1 D you absolutely lock him for 8 years at Pastrnak money. I feel like there has been a precedent set by Marchand taking less, Pasta taking less etc to expect that even with a rising cap the AAV won't be astronomical. The kid is a stud.
Rubber Biscuit
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I don't think he'd take that over 8 years. I'd do it in a heartbeat, though.
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Rangers, D Skjei agree to 6-year, $31.5M deal
He’s getting 7.5 M if he has a big year
Heinen
DeBrusk
Carlo
McAvoy
Donato
Bjork
These 6 AAV going to be fascinating to watch if there is progression
Pastrnak and Marchand would have been looking at $8-9 M
He’s getting 7.5 M if he has a big year
Heinen
DeBrusk
Carlo
McAvoy
Donato
Bjork
These 6 AAV going to be fascinating to watch if there is progression
Pastrnak and Marchand would have been looking at $8-9 M
CharasLazyWrister
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If we do things somewhat proportionately to the Wilson contract, he's owed at least $15 million/season.
00BW
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I just saw this. I like Skjei a lot, but, wow.
He really did not do much better than Moore last year and got double the money. They must expect him to have a breakout season but he hasn't shown that yet at age 24 vs Moore's age 27.
I don't expect to see McAvoy's contract higher than Pastrnak. I know #1 D are more valuable than #1 W, but I think he wants to be on a winning team (based on his tournament/post season play and comments) and won't try to break the bank. I suppose, maybe with 2 years of inflation, it might top out at $7m next year but I'm not sure.
DeBrusk and Bjork each have 2 years left on ELC so not taking up extra cash after this year.
You have to think this is Chara's last year so his $6m will basically be added to McAvoy's current price. Carlo's contract will probably be taking McQuaid's $$ and adding it to his current contract.
Heinen and Donato are tough to project. Heinen came close to 50 points so he should get that easy this year. Donato has 30 goal, 60 point potential. They could both be looking for $5-6m which would force the trades of Backes and maybe even Krejci whose contracts both switch to 15 team MNTC next year. Before they can trade Krejci, the Bruins really need one or more of their center prospects to come up and perform really well in the NHL this year.
This is, potentially, a huge year for these Bruins young prospect to show they are stars that can take over the team and the brightest star needs to be McAvoy. Hopefully, he can deliver.
ODAAT
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Outside of McAvoy, I don`t expect the young players to prove they are "stars", with McAvoy, IMO, it`s all about staying on the ice. My hope is those young players show that, moving forward, they will continue to prove they are all developing into capable and trustworthy players. I get the impression that all of the kids who played last year seem to be teachable which is huge.
The benefit of having a strong drafting history is that those kids who aren`t producing (and some vets too), will hear a loud knock on the door with a kid on the other side pushing them for their spot
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McAvoy's camp will probably use Ekblad as a comparable and that's fair. Unless he has terrible 2nd year, it's probably smart to lock him up long term. He's going to take a big chunk of the cap sooner or later anyway. No sense in getting into another Subban situation where he won the Norris during his bridge deal and Montreal was forced to give him a mammoth deal.
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KrejciMVP
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agree with this, probably a little bit under Pastrnak after seeing those negotiations last year. Probably the best thing I've seen from Sweeney's time here is the Pasta and Marchand contracts not coming in too high.
00BW
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Maybe not 'star' but they absolutely need one of their centers to establish themselves. It will be very risky to trade Krejci in a year if not, and much easier if the prospect can get 45-55 points this year. Ideally, they will have one break in this year and another break in next year like they did the last 2 years with Carlo and then McAvoy breaking in on RD.
There is only 1 year left for Chara but they have a 4 year window with Bergeron. That's the main cup window until we see what the centers can do.
ODAAT
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You can tell that Sweeney and Co have not neglected the fact that they will, in time, need to be ready up the middle. You look at whom they drafted and they have not at all ignored the C position. I`d love to see one of JFK, Studnicka or Frederic assert themselves at camp and grab a spot. Not quite sure any are quite ready yet as I just don`t have the ability to watch them.
I don`t have issues with the B`s moving DK, but the return has to be something that doesn`t weaken the lineup. For as often as I`m left uninspired with his overall play, DK is quietly a very good 3 zone player, I know that isn`t sexy here but it`s vital once the game begins
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If you have a love in your life, it isn’t real until they look at you the way Bill looks at Charlie
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BB: “Hey Charlie. Wanna play QB?”
CM: “Brady’s here and I’ve never played.”
BB: “I’ll teach you....”
CM: “I’ll think about it....”
**see picture above**
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That's as close as you'll get Bill to smiling without bringing up Lawrence Taylor, but if you cover his mouth or just focus on his eyes, you could easily be convinced McAvoy just insulted his mother or mentioned Malcolm Butler as his primary source of inspiration.
00BW
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Bruins Visit Patriots Training Camp
The picture accompanying the article shows just how big Gronk is.
It may be perspective angles, but McAvoy looks a lot bigger than last year.
A lot of summer articles have been praising Donato's workouts, and dude looks jacked here.
For the amount of hits he gives out, Wagner looks like a pretty small dude.
The picture accompanying the article shows just how big Gronk is.
It may be perspective angles, but McAvoy looks a lot bigger than last year.
A lot of summer articles have been praising Donato's workouts, and dude looks jacked here.
For the amount of hits he gives out, Wagner looks like a pretty small dude.
UncleRico
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So in one thread you are talking about the bruins will regret moving Krug because they won’t have an offensive defender. Yet in another thread you are saying even if mcavoys offensive game doesn’t improve and stays the same he should give you 40 points.
Lol so what is it? if Krug leaves are we not going to have an offensive defender or will we have guys like mcavoy and gryz stepping up? Hard to imagine if Krug leaves that mcavoys offensive production won’t go up to roughly 50 points with the added PP opportunities and other offensive opportunities that he could take over.
ON3M4N
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Lol the fact that you've spent time scouring threads and found a post from almost 3 weeks ago and now are trying to use it for a complete different argument is hilarious and sad at the same time. Btw Krug is a nearly 60pt dman... last I checked 40 isn't 60. Seriously though let it go. I have no interesting in continuing this conversation with you. I've learned from other forums just to walk away from you once you get going because you talk in circles and arguing things no one else is arguing.
Feel free to respond, but don't expect a response
UncleRico
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Not talking in circles just pointing out how you are contradicting yourself. You said if mcavoy doesn’t improve we should expect 40 points out of him. Assuming we all think he should improve how many points do you think that era him to 45-48? Then if Krug leaves and mcavoy takes a more offensive role. How many more points is that with Krug gone.
Just weird how you are saying bruins fans would be complaining about not having and offensive defender if Krug left in one thread, but also are saying you expect mcavoy to be at 40 with no improvement to his game.
And you said you expect 40 points from mcavoy with Krug staying here in mind and no improvement from mcavoys game last year. Those numbers would certainly jump with improvement and Krug leaving.
Contradicting yourself pretty hard.
UncleRico
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Serious question here Oneman.
You said if mcavoy doesn’t improve at all offensively and just stays the same, over an 82 game season you expect 40 points from him.
Hypothetically if Krug were to be moved and mcavoy has just your average year 1 to year 2 jump in play/production then....
1) how many points would you predict mcavoy gets with Krug gone and mcavoy gets an extra 1-1.5 minutes on the power play and jumps from PP1 to PP2?
2) if Krug stays and mcavoy has the average jump in production from year 1 to year 2, how many points do you expect mcavoy to get?
3) if Krug is gone how many more points would you expect Matty Gryz to get with the added offensive opportunity and jumping on to PP2?
You said if mcavoy doesn’t improve at all offensively and just stays the same, over an 82 game season you expect 40 points from him.
Hypothetically if Krug were to be moved and mcavoy has just your average year 1 to year 2 jump in play/production then....
1) how many points would you predict mcavoy gets with Krug gone and mcavoy gets an extra 1-1.5 minutes on the power play and jumps from PP1 to PP2?
2) if Krug stays and mcavoy has the average jump in production from year 1 to year 2, how many points do you expect mcavoy to get?
3) if Krug is gone how many more points would you expect Matty Gryz to get with the added offensive opportunity and jumping on to PP2?
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