Confirmed with Link: Charlie Coyle to the Bruins for Donato and a conditional 5th-round pick - 4th if B's make 2nd round

[HockeyMomx2]

46 games over 2 seasons in enough time to you? Especially if you're not being put in a position to succeed?

Hell, he wasn't even playing his natural position during that time. You don't think him playing off position, and being told to play a certain way resulted in him overthinking and trying not to make a mistake? You honestly can't play that way. You have to play and react without worrying about getting sat if you make a mistake, but that's not how it is here. Here, you need to play a complete 200 foot game. That's why he said it was nice to be trusted and to play his game.

for you to count last season as a full 'season' causes your argument to lose weight. However, had he played this year during his initial stint at beginning of season, or in any of his call ups, the way he did in his short stint at end of last season he would still be on the big clubs roster. He didnt. He seemingly pouted instead of working harder when sent down (basing that opinion on his providence numbers).

 

[The don godfather]

I am convinced that Coyle will be a horton jr and pop some big big goals being on David wing. I'm gonna book it and also take it to the bank. Bruins fans will love Coyle like horton just watch . Mark the post .

 

[LSCII]

Charlie McAvoy says hey

And why did they sign McAvoy and burn the first year of his ELC? Literally the same thing as Krug. And both guys earned their shot by playing well and forcing the team to keep them in the lineup.

 

[BruinsFanSince94]

I don't know if Donato will ever be a top line talent and I really don't care if he doesn't. I just find it odd that this organization continually chokes on integrating young offensive minded players into their roster for some reason.

Pastrnak wasn't a young offensive minded player when he was integrated? DeBrusk isn't an offensive minded player?

 

[LSCII]

for you to count last season as a full 'season' causes your argument to lose weight. However, had he played this year during his initial stint at beginning of season, or in any of his call ups, the way he did in his short stint at end of last season he would still be on the big clubs roster. He didnt. He seemingly pouted instead of working harder when sent down (basing that opinion on his providence numbers).

I'm not counting anything as a full season. In fact, I'm saying the opposite. I said that 46 games over two years was not enough of a look for me. They moved on and that's fine. They get better instantly because they added Coyle to their roster for a guy that wasn't on it. All I'm saying is that I think his comments after the fact weren't a shot at the team in so much as they were a young guy letting some frustration out. I then took it a step further and said this organization seems to struggle with integrating in young offensive minded players for some reason. Which given their track record, isn't something you can argue, IMO.

 

[LSCII]

Pastrnak wasn't a young offensive minded player when he was integrated? DeBrusk isn't an offensive minded player?

Was he not loaned out twice to his national junior team in his first two years? It's not like they saw him and said, man he needs to play every game, every situation, FFS.

 

[Mainehockey33]

Exactly. And what was the difference between Donato and Heinen? Heinen played a better 200 foot game.

He’s also stronger on the boards, stronger on his skates, and wins more puck battles. He wasn’t helping the team right now with his shot alone. Let him put up points on a bottom feeder while Boston gets the stronger, two way center that has a better offensive game right now and is still 26. Everyone wins.

 

[LSCII]

For better or worse, that's what this organization wants. It's up to Donato to make himself better in that area, if that's what it's going to take.

Add Debusk to the list of young players who did what was necessary...

I get it and you're spot on. I just think there's a better way than how they're doing it. Other franchises seem to do this better and are more willing to live with the growing pains of these young guys, and it usually pans out for them in the long run. And this isn't about Donato because he clearly had a lot of work to do to be a better player.

 

[LSCII]

He’s also stronger on the boards, stronger on his skates, and wins more puck battles. He wasn’t helping the team right now with his shot alone. Let him put up points on a bottom feeder while Boston gets the stronger, two way center that has a better offensive game right now and is still 26. Everyone wins.

Yep. Not even arguing that. Just saying the team as a collective is harder on prospects and require more from them than other teams to get a realistic shot.

 

[Mainehockey33]

Yep. Not even arguing that. Just saying the team as a collective is harder on prospects and require more from them than other teams to get a realistic shot.

You have to have a higher standard if you want to be the best. Unfortunately for Donato winning time is now for the Bruins and there are better options at wing.

 

[lopey]

I am convinced that Coyle will be a horton jr and pop some big big goals being on David wing. I'm gonna book it and also take it to the bank. Bruins fans will love Coyle like horton just watch . Mark the post .

Oh no the kiss of death, Godfather book it!!

 

[Mick Riddleton]

Man, Senyshyn must be reading that Donato comment and thinking, hey I was here before you and never got a shot yet. You got gifted 3 and failed to cement it down.

I was really disappointed in Donato this year, I thought he would challenge for rookie of the year. Well good luck to him, he will get a better chance in Minny, lets see what happens. That said Coyle is the perfect 3rd line addition. Gotta give to get and they gave up what we had in depth.

 

[Fenian24]

And why did they sign McAvoy and burn the first year of his ELC? Literally the same thing as Krug. And both guys earned their shot by playing well and forcing the team to keep them in the lineup.

So if a player doesn't play well and they aren't seeing him develop they should keep him on the NHL team because he isn't developing? Let's look at your examples of under developed or misused youth. Kessel, was going to sign an offer sheet, has been on several teams, is a good player. The deal they made got them Seguin and Hamilton. Seguin was a terrible trade, if they were choosing to move on from him due to off ice issues they had to do better and did not, really the beginning of the end for Chiarelli. Hamilton is on team 3, maybe heading to team 4 and has never developed into the caliber of player expected. All of them were perceived as not being committed enough to become next level players by management and they moved on. Wheeler's trade helped them win a Stanley Cup and you make that deal every single time.

Sorry but character matters, three of your examples were sorely lacking in it here and two still are. Maybe you should question Donato's commitment to becoming the player they wanted him to become and not a one way average offensive player with a good shot.

 

[LSCII]

You have to have a higher standard if you want to be the best. Unfortunately for Donato winning time is now for the Bruins and there are better options at wing.

Well that's the issue, isn't it? They're a top 3 team again in this league right now, so young guys breaking through is going to be a lot harder than on a non-playoff team. They also have a glut of prospects, so they have the luxury of being more stringent on those guys.

I personally would just rather see a young guy given the chance to grow rather than non factors like Joakim Nordstrom and David Backes continually getting rolled out because they back check a little more fervently.

 

[Mick Riddleton]

Also very smart move by Sweeney to jump in early getting Coyle. After the big names drop in a few days the panic and price would go up and a guy like Coyle would not be around at that price.

 

[Mainehockey33]

So if a player doesn't play well and they aren't seeing him develop they should keep him on the NHL team because he isn't developing? Let's look at your examples of under developed or misused youth. Kessel, was going to sign an offer sheet, has been on several teams, is a good player. The deal they made got them Seguin and Hamilton. Seguin was a terrible trade, if they were choosing to move on from him due to off ice issues they had to do better and did not, really the beginning of the end for Chiarelli. Hamilton is on team 3, maybe heading to team 4 and has never developed into the caliber of player expected. All of them were perceived as not being committed enough to become next level players by management and they moved on. Wheeler's trade helped them win a Stanley Cup and you make that deal every single time.

Sorry but character matters, three of your examples were sorely lacking in it here and two still are. Maybe you should question Donato's commitment to becoming the player they wanted him to become and not a one way average offensive player with a good shot.

I still remember when Pierre compared a young Dougie Hamilton to Larry Robinson. That take didn’t age too well lol.

 

[LSCII]

So if a player doesn't play well and they aren't seeing him develop they should keep him on the NHL team because he isn't developing? Let's look at your examples of under developed or misused youth. Kessel, was going to sign an offer sheet, has been on several teams, is a good player. The deal they made got them Seguin and Hamilton. Seguin was a terrible trade, if they were choosing to move on from him due to off ice issues they had to do better and did not, really the beginning of the end for Chiarelli. Hamilton is on team 3, maybe heading to team 4 and has never developed into the caliber of player expected. All of them were perceived as not being committed enough to become next level players by management and they moved on. Wheeler's trade helped them win a Stanley Cup and you make that deal every single time.

Sorry but character matters, three of your examples were sorely lacking in it here and two still are. Maybe you should question Donato's commitment to becoming the player they wanted him to become and not a one way average offensive player with a good shot.

I don't want character guys. I want talent. And how things ended with Kessel, Seguin, and Hamilton is irrelevant to the dynamic I'm talking about here. All three of them are prime examples of what I'm saying because all three had the offensive ability to contribute, but were forced to play a different game than their skills sets before they were given an honest shot. All three were also given very short leashes and were benched multiple times in their early stages here. That's just fact.

 

[LouJersey]

Good kid taking some shots on the way out?

Good for him. He did it before they could. He's no dummy.

 

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