Discussion in 'International Tournaments' started by Jussi, May 22, 2019.
That's a really good point and should be stressed.
One would think they'd done that last season the first home game after the win. Finnish clubs definitely have done so in past. Jokerit raised banners after their European Cup wins, TPS after EHL win and JYP after their CHL win (IIRC).
I posted this in the gameday discussion thread yesterday, but it fits better in here:
I was a little bored being sick at home so here are the average attendance figures for the CHL teams so far this season after every team has had 2 home games, as well as the arena utilization (assuming I found the correct arena capacities).
TeamAverageUtilizationAdler Mannheim (GER)7.90258,10%Augsburger Panther (GER)5.80594,56%SC Bern (SUI)5.05329,67%HC Ambri-Piotta (SUI)4.65471,60%Belfast Giants (GBR)4.58841,70%Kärpät Oulu (FIN)4.46267,46%EV Zug (SUI)4.39561,03%HC Pilsen (CZE)4.19850,97%Ocelari Trinec (CZE)3.92172,60%Frölunda Indians (SWE)3.76349,51%Bili Tygri Liberec (CZE)3.66950,60%Tappara Tampere (FIN)3.65250,03%Lahti Pelicans (FIN)3.54764,14%Lulea Hockey (SWE)3.41354,17%Red Bull Munich (GER)3.34553,47%Yunost Minsk (BLR)3.31534,48%Vienna Capitals (AUT)3.27546,64%KAC Klagenfurt (AUT)3.25565,82%HPK Hämeenlinna (FIN)3.06057,09%EHC Biel-Bienne (SUI)3.04246,65%Färjestad Karlstad (SWE)2.79332,30%Graz 99ers (AUT)2.75666,80%Mountfield HK (CZE)2.75335,75%Grenoble (FRA)2.69176,97%Cardiff Devils (GBR)2.65986,09%Djurgarden Stockholm (SWE)2.40429,69%GKS Tychy (POL)2.23981,31%Skelleftea AIK (SWE)2.03935,14%HC05 Banska Bystrica (SVK)1.61645,92%Frisk Asker (NOR)1.43559,77%Lausanne HC (SUI)1.21667,56%Rungsted Seier Capital (DEN)96139,04%
Thanks for that. However, something to keep in mind is that Frölunda, for instance, does not play in their usual venue, Scandinavium (12,044), during the CHL. Rather, they play their games in a much smaller arena capacity-wise which is Frölundaborg (6,044).
I have a feeling that attendance figures will be better for many of the returning teams this season compared to last. It's slowly but surely catching on.
Anyone think part of the reason the central european teams attract bigger audiances is culture for champions leagues? Im not a big soccer guy but ive understood that they love the champions league and its considered to be as prestigious as the domestic leagues..? Meanwhile in Sweden and Finland the domestic soccer leagues are utter jokes and there has ever been just one appearence from a finnish club (HJK in the 90s) im not sure if a swedish club has ever made it to the group stage. So basically these international club events are a new thing to swedes and finns.
I know they are playing in a smaller arena, but the capacity I found for Frölundaborg using Google was 7,600. And that is what I used for my calculation.
It is funny though, that now when I google "Frölundaborg capacity 6044" I find references to that capacity.
I'll trust you and change the capacity at latest when I add the numbers after the next games in October.
When I looked at all the numbers I was actually pleasantly surprised, because if I remember correctly the numbers for many teams seem to be going up.
And the tournament as a whole has definitely become a bigger deal here in Germany. Fans start to come around and embrace it, and the teams are putting more effort into it and don't just view it as a nuisance. It has now gotten to the point where teams like Mannheim and Munich are clearly stating that they want to win this tournament
Swedish football teams have eight appearances in UCL group stage. Malmö FF made it twice in a row (2014-15, 2015-16) but no one else since 2000-01.
Are you in the right thread?
Edit: Ah. I see the post you were responding too. Better to quote to avoid misunderstandings.
In either case, to put the numbers you so handily listed into perspective they should be compared to the teams domestic league average and, if possible, previous CHL seasons. Are you up for the task?
From memory, I belive it was Helsingborg 2000/2001.
Historically IFK Gothenburg and Malmö FF have had big success in European club competitions.
You are way off the mark.
Not today, it's my birthday and I am not going to spend it doing that.
But I may actually look into it in the near future (I had already started for German teams). Although I am not sure if I'll be able to find all the data for the teams from other leagues.
Slow day at the office and i was actually interested in it myself, so here's a late happy birthday gift to you
TeamAverageUtilizationAvg Attend.RankingAdler Mannheim (GER)7.90258,10%10191 7Augsburger Panther (GER)5.80594,56%502558SC Bern (SUI)5.05329,67% 16371 1HC Ambri-Piotta (SUI)4.65471,60%473065Belfast Giants (GBR)4.58841,70%456174Kärpät Oulu (FIN)4.46267,46%539449EV Zug (SUI)4.39561,03%698323HC Pilsen (CZE)4.19850,97%655028Ocelari Trinec (CZE)3.92172,60%437277Frölunda Indians (SWE)3.76349,51%96678Bili Tygri Liberec (CZE)3.66950,60%545746Tappara Tampere (FIN)3.65250,03%554443Lahti Pelicans (FIN)3.54764,14%397690Lulea Hockey (SWE)3.41354,17%494661Red Bull Munich (GER)3.34553,47%503557Yunost Minsk (BLR)3.31534,48%??Vienna Capitals (AUT)3.27546,64%464371KAC Klagenfurt (AUT)3.25565,82%??HPK Hämeenlinna (FIN)3.06057,09%??EHC Biel-Bienne (SUI)3.04246,65%536951Färjestad Karlstad (SWE)2.79332,30% 723318Graz 99ers (AUT)2.75666,80%??Mountfield HK (CZE)2.75335,75%492262Grenoble (FRA)2.69176,97%??Cardiff Devils (GBR)2.65986,09%??Djurgarden Stockholm (SWE)2.40429,69%716919GKS Tychy (POL)2.23981,31%??Skelleftea AIK (SWE)2.03935,14%464272HC05 Banska Bystrica (SVK)1.61645,92%??Frisk Asker (NOR)1.43559,77%??Lausanne HC (SUI)1.21667,56%628232Rungsted Seier Capital (DEN)96139,04%??
Avg Attendance and its ranking is from the 17/18 season: Euro Attendance | Euro Hockey Clubs
Just out of curiosity, which other team than Lausanne plays in an entire different arena?
No worries. Celebrate your birthday with ein mass dunkel and some of that awesome meat in bread you guys have.
EDIT: Someone already beat you to it so you can relax.
Great work. Nicely done.
Frölunda plays in a different arena for their CHL games. Exception was the finals last year.
It should be noted that those attendance figures do not include playoffs. At least not for SHL teams. Unsure about the rest. I was able to find attendance numbers for SHL last season here: Statistik lag 2018/2019 - SHL.se
Frölundas average is listed at 10,071, not counting playoffs.
Färjestad at 7231 avg, Djurgården at 7355, Luleå at 5363 and Skellefteå at 4523.
If those numbers are right, Augsburg er Panther has higher attendance average in CHL than their domestic leage. That's very interesting. Anyone know why that might be?
Cardiff devil's sold out
While they did not play them. For games in the Czech republic and Austria, the devils had about 1000 fans in toe
I don't know, but it looks like they had a pretty bad 17/18 season (12th, missed the playoffs).
That or we have found the only team outside of GB (by 17 people) who have fans who care more about the CHL than their domestic league
Damn! Welsh hockey fanatics. Who would have known. haha
I put cardiff fans up against any nhl fan base
Example. Last season both the cardiff devils and Florida Panthers had exhibition or friendly home game on the same day. Devils out drew the Panthers
Well I remember Manchester Storm fans in Prague, like twenty years ago. they were the only louders in whole arena... Do not ask me why.
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