Chalk Talk thread/schemes.

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  1. Gene Parmesan

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    Feel like this could be a good thread to pass the time and educate one another.



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    Really good thread breaking down how modern coverages have blended.
     
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    I like this thread. Can’t ever know a great thing well enough.
     
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    pretty aggressive coverage on 3&25..
     
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    Playing cover 1, 2, and 3. All depending on the routes. Pattern matching. Plus has a good Saban tidbit. He does the same thing but calls it "Seattle". Which is very easy for his guys to remember. Similar to how Belichick does it. Both guys are Erhardt-Perkins guys when it comes to verbage.
     
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    james light is a good follow for X&Os. learned a lot from him on how BB doubles the top targets for offense, often using cover 7 and how well they can disguise it.
     
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    Yep it's pretty crazy. Bill is a mad scientist when it comes to disguise.
     
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    The most undervalued receiver in football is about to be a free agent. This is a good article on how he changes an offense.
     
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    Eagles are ahead of the curve. Its all about affecting the pass game. Now have 6 of the top 50 pressure producers on their d-line.
     
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    I'd add Pederson and McVay too. (Even though they are extensions of Shanny and Andy)

    It's a really good point and how we are incorrectly assessing RB's.
     
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    I've been reading a lot about pattern-matching coverages. It's not like a particularly new thing, just seems like more and more teams are doing it and doing it at a high level. I suspect it's Nick Saban's influence on college football trickling "up" to the NFL. Rookies are getting to the NFL with full grasps of combo coverages and zone blitzing. If I had to guess I'd say we're headed for a point in the next couple years where pass defenses are ahead of passing offenses to the point where teams are going to start running the ball a lot more than they have been. Maybe that is even already happening.
     
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    NFL teams still throw the ball a ton but as more pattern matching disguises happen, offenses are using more pre-snap motion and bunch sets.
     
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    The NFL is in an exciting place scheme wise. More and more of the top NFL offensive minds are incorporating "college" style concepts. Figuring out that it's a benefit to make life easy on your QB and cater the playbook to their skill set and what they like to do. This is why I think Gruden is going to bomb super hard. Already saying crap like we are going to overload Derek Carr etc etc.
     
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    We've already seen Bill O'Brien adapt to that to a degree. They're your guy for a reason. No sense to make him something he isn't. Adapting to NFL-style has been a pretty antiquated practice for a number of years now.
     
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    O'Brien was forced to adapt though. Andy Reid is a good example of an NFL lifer realizing that his straight west coast O wasn't going to work and adapting it with modern concepts. Mike McCarhy is the exact opposite. He just has a once in a lifetime QB capable of bailing him out.
     
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    Great info. Pass defense really is a science.
     
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    TV announces love to use the phrase zone blocking, but they never try to explain it.

     
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    Yeah they really should explain it. When it's executed, zone blocking is like violent poetry. The o-line and rb have to be in sync. More teams don't use it because you need athletic lineman that can move. Usually those guys are on the smaller end. Old school GMs hate sacrificing size. It's the main reason the 49ers traded Trent Brown and drafted McGlinchey.
     
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    How do you envision the Giants offense with Barkley, can they use him a lot in the passing game or are they just going to pound him in the run?
     
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    Get him the ball in space. That should be the plan. He isn't Zeke or Fournette in which you can feed him 25-30 times and have him bang out yardage. He's not that type of runner. Use him on OZ runs and as a receiver. Exploit mismatches against LB's in the pass game.
     
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    this probably fits best in here.


     
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    Mark Schofield is really good.
     

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