Proposal: CGY Mega Rebuild thread: EDM/NYR/CHI/COL/VAN/TBL

bernmeister

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You know in the absurd dumbness of the idea I actually didn't consider the ED for any of these teams. That could be a valid point. Given the nature of this post lets assume that Seattle was engulfed by an actual kraken and the ED isn't happening any more because its hard enough to jettison and entire teams worth of players into the atmosphere like this as it is lol

sorry to unintentionally have bursted yer bubble.
 

Meeqs

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sorry to unintentionally have bursted yer bubble.

Naw that was the giant sea monster that took out the bubbles lol. This was just silly ideas that had dreams of people joining along in silliness that were quickly and swiftly crushed by dummies and fun haters haha
 

McJedi

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2nd line winger, especially an all around play driver is definitely a hole for Colorado. Let alone a top line winger on an excellent contract. Its an undeniable need and a good fit. There is also nothing the Avs give up that they don't have an excess of.

Yes the Avs are a good team, there is nothing to fix other than your terrible analysis.

I respond to the comments posters make appropriately, so if you feel like I am being pompous then you likely have some truly atrocious takes. For example if you try and prove a point about a team based on a small sample size of games with record breaking injury numbers and in this case it doesn't start and end with extreme goaltending results then you're opinions are instantly irrelevant.

And again, if I respond to you it means that I have respect for you, even if we disagree or you say dumb things. If you are worried about me not doing so you wont have to worry about it because I mute and block people who consistently show they aren't worth it.[/QUOTE

mute and block. Excellent idea.
 

elitepete

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You guys know the deal, CGY is AWFUL so we are going to completely blow it up. If you are a player of value 25 years or older you're OUTTA HERE. We gunna make a team of young kids, be bad for a few years and then run trail on the Pac. So without further adoooooo

(PS, this is a silly thread, so don't be a melvin saying it's unrealistic, like no duh. Make changes, offer alternatives, stick to the parameters)

Trade 1:
Edm: Bouchard, Lavoie
CGY: Gaudreau, EDM's 2020 3rd, Klyington

We getting McDavid some actual help boi's

Trade 2:
NYR: Chytil, Georgiev, Kravstov, Staal
CGY: Monahan

NYR gets their top 6 center in a cap neutral deal.

Trade 3:
Chi: Strome, Maatta, 2020 3rd
CGY: Giordano(50% retention), Backlund

Chi swaps to a top teir defensive 3c and gets a top pairing dmen to help Toews & Kane make one last push. Maatta is a cap dump

Trade 4:
COL: Timmins, Compher, Jost, Ranta
CGY: Lindholm

COL gets a top 6 winger with term.

Trade 5:
VAN: 2021 1st & 2nd, 2020 3rd, Roussel , Eriksson
CGY: 2020 7th

Van's cap problems magically go away, allowing them to resign anyone they need. Could swap Roussel with Baertschi or Beagle if wanted

Offer sheet:
TBL: Cirelli (6.9AAVx6 [nice])
CGY: 2021 1st, 2nd, 3rd


Final Roster:

Tkachuk/Cirelli/Dube
Bennett/Strome/Kravstov
Chytil/Compher/Roussel
Lucic/Ryan/Jost
Eriksson/Lavioe

Hanafin/Andersson
Valimaki/Timmins
Maatta/Bouchard
Staal

Giorgiev(4x4)
Rittich

This team is bad enough to get a few top picks, has young upside to grow quickly and has a ton of snarl to stay entertaining.

Enjoy
Canucks are not trading their 1st, 2nd and 3rd to get rid of those contracts.
 

Cousin Eddie

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The playoffs showed the Avs need even more depth and this cat is trying to steal the bottom of the lineup.
Really? Colorado leads all 24 teams that played in these playoffs in goals/game in the playoffs. In fact Colorado actually scored more goals than any other team in round 2 alone despite getting put out in game 7.

Colorado’s depth is pretty heavy. Having to use their 3rd string goalie is what killed them.
 

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You know in the absurd dumbness of the idea I actually didn't consider the ED for any of these teams. That could be a valid point. Given the nature of this post lets assume that Seattle was engulfed by an actual kraken and the ED isn't happening any more because its hard enough to jettison and entire teams worth of players into the atmosphere like this as it is lol
While you didn't consider it, the trade had Chytil going back so that swaps out the expansion protection. Either way, we don't do it.
 
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Pavel Buchnevich

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If Hanafin and Lindholm are in play, for the NYR I would send back ADA, Strome, 22OA, Zac Jones, and Gauthier. Probably an overpay but it would have to be to make NYR better and CAL getting good reset and future pieces.

No thanks. They can have Miller or Robertson instead, if we are trading a prospect LHD. The rest of the trade is also way too much.
 

treple13

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No thanks. They can have Miller or Robertson instead, if we are trading a prospect LHD. The rest of the trade is also way too much.

Sort of irrelevant as Calgary isn't trading those guys for quantity. Lindholm is untouchable without a better forward coming back
 

chet1926

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The only things of any interest to me as an Avs fan, that Calgary has are Hanifin and Bennett.

For Bennett, a 3rd/4th liner, and Hanifin, a number 3 dman I'd offer up Timmins, Jost, 1st, 3rd. Basically Timmins and 1st for Hanifin and Jost and 3rd for Bennett. If that's not enough then maybe sub out the 3rd and add Zadorov.

Calgary gets 4 nice rebuilding pieces, Colorado gets a gritty 3rd/4th line guy, which they lack and a reasonable defenseman they could pair with Girard or Makar to make an upgrade over Graves or Cole.
 

Meeqs

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The only things of any interest to me as an Avs fan, that Calgary has are Hanifin and Bennett.

For Bennett, a 3rd/4th liner, and Hanifin, a number 3 dman I'd offer up Timmins, Jost, 1st, 3rd. Basically Timmins and 1st for Hanifin and Jost and 3rd for Bennett. If that's not enough then maybe sub out the 3rd and add Zadorov.

Calgary gets 4 nice rebuilding pieces, Colorado gets a gritty 3rd/4th line guy, which they lack and a reasonable defenseman they could pair with Girard or Makar to make an upgrade over Graves or Cole.

Avs have Byram and Girard on the left side long term, so another left D makes no sense. Bennett is a great 3rd line element for a team but Colorado has an excess of depth players like that to the point they need to get rid of them.

The only things Col currently needs is: a top 6 winger, a bottom 4 defensively stout RD, possibly a long term goaltending solution and capspace/prospects/picks. What you have listed fits non of that criteria.

So I am disregarding your feedback on the matter as relevant, but thank you for taking the time to contribute.
 

chet1926

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Avs have Byram and Girard on the left side long term, so another left D makes no sense. Bennett is a great 3rd line element for a team but Colorado has an excess of depth players like that to the point they need to get rid of them.

The only things Col currently needs is: a top 6 winger, a bottom 4 defensively stout RD, possibly a long term goaltending solution and capspace/prospects/picks. What you have listed fits non of that criteria.

So I am disregarding your feedback on the matter as relevant, but thank you for taking the time to contribute.
Byram is two seasons away from being counted on in a bigger role, so that leaves Girard and a hole on 2nd pairing, I'd gladly take Hanifin as an upgrade. He'd be better than everyone right now other than Makar or Girard, EJ doesn't count because it's only a matter of time until he gets hurt again.

Bennett fills a huge need of gritty pain in the ass, take no shit player, which we sorely lack. A pest would have gone a long way to quell some of those cheap shots we absorbed against Dallas. I'd gladly swap Jost or Namestnikov, who we don't need to resign as you mentioned the log jam of similar type guys in the bottom 6, for a guy like Bennett, who offers something different. An edge.

The goal is to win now, not wait 2 years until guys like Byram and Newhook and Timmins can be more counted on. Can't keep delaying for prospects to develop it's winning time, now.

Adding Hanifin kicks a guy like Cole or Graves to nacho duty, which is a plus. And Bennett adds needed toughness/nastiness. We're simply too nice of a hockey team.

Both would be welcome adds in my books. I do agree that 3C defensive minded, faceoff specialist is top priority. But I wouldn't be mad adding those 2 as well as a 3C.
 

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Byram is two seasons away from being counted on in a bigger role, so that leaves Girard and a hole on 2nd pairing, I'd gladly take Hanifin as an upgrade. He'd be better than everyone right now other than Makar or Girard, EJ doesn't count because it's only a matter of time until he gets hurt again.

Bennett fills a huge need of gritty pain in the ass, take no shit player, which we sorely lack. A pest would have gone a long way to quell some of those cheap shots we absorbed against Dallas. I'd gladly swap Jost or Namestnikov, who we don't need to resign as you mentioned the log jam of similar type guys in the bottom 6, for a guy like Bennett, who offers something different. An edge.

The goal is to win now, not wait 2 years until guys like Byram and Newhook and Timmins can be more counted on. Can't keep delaying for prospects to develop it's winning time, now.

Adding Hanifin kicks a guy like Cole or Graves to nacho duty, which is a plus. And Bennett adds needed toughness/nastiness. We're simply too nice of a hockey team.

Both would be welcome adds in my books. I do agree that 3C defensive minded, faceoff specialist is top priority. But I wouldn't be mad adding those 2 as well as a 3C.

If my stance wasn't set before, I appreciate you taking the time to really cement my previous thoughts.
 

thadd

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Edmonton deal only makes sense capwise if Edmonton sends Calgary Russell + Neal + Kassian.

Oh... you guys could put Lucic and Neal on a line! So big and tough they'd be! :D
 
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From a Colorado perspective, I’d do the Lindholm trade. That contract is really nice over the next few seasons and I like that he can play wing and centre.
 
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JPeeper

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Flames get hosed in every single trade, quite handily at that (minus the Vancouver one which is laughable).

The roster afterwards is worse and we get nothing to re-build with.

Mods should shut this down.
 

Meeqs

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Flames get hosed in every single trade, quite handily at that (minus the Vancouver one which is laughable).

The roster afterwards is worse and we get nothing to re-build with.

Mods should shut this down.

Why do you hate fun?

Like it seems like not only did you miss the point completely but are being an unnecessary buzz kill. The point wasn't to make realistic trades, it was to trade away every single player over 25. While I have no idea why it is still going, it doesn't break any rules and there is no valid reason to end this thread.

Also what do you mean, "nothing to rebuild with" all of those deals return good young players with upside.
 

Meeqs

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Worst rebuild ever.

I could probably find at least 10 actual teams that did worse lmao.

Also the worst rebuild is often the one that doesn't happen if ya know what I mean.

Also I have encouraged everyone on here to try and improve it. If you do think its so bad, show me what could have been done better, staying within the rules of course
 

Mal Reynolds

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Trade 1:
Edm: Bouchard, Lavoie
CGY: Gaudreau, EDM's 2020 3rd, Klyington

We getting McDavid some actual help boi's

Trade 2:
NYR: Chytil, Georgiev, Kravstov, Staal
CGY: Monahan

NYR gets their top 6 center in a cap neutral deal.

Trade 3:
Chi: Strome, Maatta, 2020 3rd
CGY: Giordano(50% retention), Backlund

Chi swaps to a top teir defensive 3c and gets a top pairing dmen to help Toews & Kane make one last push. Maatta is a cap dump

Trade 4:
COL: Timmins, Compher, Jost, Ranta
CGY: Lindholm

COL gets a top 6 winger with term.

Trade 5:
VAN: 2021 1st & 2nd, 2020 3rd, Roussel , Eriksson
CGY: 2020 7th

Van's cap problems magically go away, allowing them to resign anyone they need. Could swap Roussel with Baertschi or Beagle if wanted

Offer sheet:
TBL: Cirelli (6.9AAVx6 [nice])
CGY: 2021 1st, 2nd, 3rd


Final Roster:

Tkachuk/Cirelli/Dube
Bennett/Strome/Kravstov
Chytil/Compher/Roussel
Lucic/Ryan/Jost
Eriksson/Lavioe

Hanafin/Andersson
Valimaki/Timmins
Maatta/Bouchard
Staal

Giorgiev(4x4)
Rittich

This team is bad enough to get a few top picks, has young upside to grow quickly and has a ton of snarl to stay entertaining.

Enjoy

I shall attempt to humor you and take a stab at it... probably get crucified by everyone else but that could be fun too

Trade 1: Remove Kylington/3rd, add Russell (cap purposes). Perhaps sub 21 1st rounder for Lavoie

Subtracting Russell doesn't get them all the way there, but it gets them closer. Other moves can be made if needed

Trade 2: I'll switch it to a team like, say, Columbus (who desperately could use centers)

To Cgy: Josh Anderson (RFA), Andrew Peeke (917K), Joonas Korpisalo ($2.8M), Brandon Dubinsky ($5.8M)
To CBJ: Sean Monahan ($6.38M), David Rittich ($2.75M)

I suppose one's feelings on this would depend on their valuation of the Jackets players ~ personally, I see Korpisalo as an upgrade and Anderson/Peeke as valuable assets with upside. It might be light, but it's a decent offer imo

I gather Columbus can't necessarily take on salary, as fhey need to pay Dubois (Dubinsky seems like LTIRetirement material iirc), and they prefer to keep their picks to reload after their shenanigans at the 2019 deadline.

Trade 3 I'll switch as well. To Florida, cause hey, why not. They could use the defensive help and are rather wanting down the middle.... now to massage the salaries to work

To Cgy: Anton Stralman ($5.5M), Keith Yandle ($6.35M), 20 first round pick (#12)

To Florida: Mark Giordano ($6.75M), Mikael Backlund ($5.35M)

All 4 of these guys have some form of trade protection, but here in the magical land of Mal's imagination, they're all amenable to a trade

Remember reading somewhere Calgary doesn't like to retain so I tried to make it a dollar for dollar scenario. I'm sure Calgary fans would like more but getting a lotto pick in a strong draft and a couple serviceable (albeit overpaid) dmen ain't bad for Gio & Backlund. I'm equally sure Florida fans will push back on giving up a high first, but this *would* make them a better team

Trade 4 I don't mind, and you're an Avs fan so I'll defer to your judgment there

Trade 5 I'd suggest just making it Demko/Eriksson for fluff, but considering my deals didn't clear as much salary as yours I'm not sure it'd work

No offersheet for Cirelli. Perhaps they poach him in a trade for below market value (as I assume Serg is the highest priority RFA there, followed closely by Cirelli)

Was going to attempt a roster but simple fact is they'd have to bring in a number of warm bodies up front.... meanwhile their blueline/goaltending would be something like this (tailor as you desire)

Hanifin/Stralman
Yandle/Peeke
Valimaki/Bouchard
Russell

Korpisalo/Demko

Be merciful, HF :sarcasm:
 
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