Discussion in 'NHL Draft - Prospects' started by Bicycle Repairman, Jan 17, 2005.
For your edification
On NHL.com you can check the complete CSS midterm ranking.
As for NA Skaters Brule is 6th!!! Johnson 5th!
But Bourdon is 4th...
Another good one: Bergfors 6th in the European ranking and Anze kopitar (slovenian playing in Sweden) is first!!! :lol
IMO it seems obvious that Bertram should be ahead of Skille and Stoa.
People seems to be overrating the U18 program.
Bertram doesn't have the size and strength that the other two have. Stoa and Skille will likely be able to handle the pro game more effectively. Bertram might skate better than those two but he doesn't have an advantage in any other area.
Bertram is playing on a scoring line in one of the best team in the USA. I liked what I saw from him, I've never seen Stoa and Skille but I'd be shocked if they were better than Bertram who reminds me of a poor-man Kariya.
Well, Skille's stock in particular has been on the rise for quite some time. Not only is he quite a bit bigger than Bertram, but he is just as, if not more skilled.
How can you say it should be "obvious" if you've never seen Skille or Stoa play? I've caught several Boston College games this year, and despite playing on a scoring line, Bertram hasn't done much for me.
wow, surprised to see Jonathan Matsumoto so low. same for Tom Fritsche and Andrew Cogliano.
I'm surpised that Sasha Pokulok is ranked so high. Yeah, he's got the size but aside from that I've yet to see anything else about him that really jumps out. (and yes, I've already seen Cornell this season and will see them some more before season's end).
T. J. Hensick's stock falling as much as it has also suprises me a bit. He hasn't lost a step since last season and IMO still at the top of his game (if memory serves me correctly, he's currently leading the Wolverines in scoring).
I know this is a bit soon to say but if any of you thought that Minnesota's freshman class was good THIS season, wait until next season! The Gophers freshmen are going to be scary good next season.
Hensick being so low does make you scratch your head when you see some of the names ahead of him. He's leading the Wolverines in scoring again and will most likely be a Hobey Baker finalist as the top college player. He's been averaging about 2 points a game since being bench against Wisconsin at the end of November... just tearing it up. At the same time I guess I shouldn't be shocked since the CSB has the long habit of ranking size over skill, and T.J.'s only 5'9 or 5'10. But it's all an opinion poll, IMO, and when draft day comes around I'm sure he'll be taken a lot higher. If he goes below the 2nd round, someone's going to get a real steal!
I agree. I saw Cornell only once this year and Pokulok didn't catch my eye, not at all. To me, he's just a defensively reliable blueliner with good size and strenght, just like his teammate Ryan O'Byrne...
here's my question about hensick - some people have questioned his courage, and from what i watched at the WJC, i'd agree. his speed and skills are evident, but is there a willingness to get his nose dirty? granted, i don't see enough of him to make a fair judgment- that's why i turn to OC and some others. so, will hensick take a big hit to make a play? will he drive the net knowing he's gonna get smacked down?
Bertram and Johnson,Cogliano are waaay tooo low.
Hensick that low is nuts. But these lists are subjective. Does it really matter anyway considering there won't be a freaking draft ?
Sorry if this has already been asked, but does anyone know when the full European rankings will be posted? I'm only seeing 1-26 on the skaters list and nothing for the goaltenders. Thanks
Latendresse 67 of NA skaters .
it's not uncommon for guys that went undrafted to get completely glazed over the next year.
They do have Syvret at 121.
The rankings just suck, basically. Whatever questions there may be about Hensick's "toughness," he won't fall out of the second round. He's at least as good as Cammalleri and is really dominating at Michigan this year. That ranking for him means that the CSB would take him in the 6th round at the earliest if you account for Euros, which is NOT going to happen. Put stock in their ratings at your own risk.
I highly doubt that Hensick will last until the 6th or even 4th round but he is not a 1st round candidate and it would not surprise me in the least to see him fall out of the 2nd round as well.
He is a good skater, has good vision and a great release but strength is indeed his downfall. He has been knocked off the puck far too many times for my liking and as it stands for most scouts as well.
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