Friedman: Ceci awarded 4.3M AAV in Arbitration

[BeastoftheEast85]

You can still trade a player if he’s on an arbitration contract right?

 

[Brock Radunske]

You can still trade a player if he’s on an arbitration contract right?

I think there is some time frame you have to wait. I could be wrong though.

 

[me2]

If the Sens walk away, I'd give him 2 mil to play the bottom pairing for the leafs.

If he would sign for $2m he would be signed by now.

 

[Brock Radunske]

If he would sign for $2m he would be signed by now.

But not in Ottawa

 

[me2]

But not in Ottawa

Even in Ottawa.

 

[Prairie Habs]

But not in Ottawa

The team's offer was 3.25

 

[Brock Radunske]

The team's offer was 3.25

Right. I'm suggesting that maybe he wants out

 

[Kegu]

The team's offer was 3.25

That was his qualifying offer. We could not offer him less.

 

[Prairie Habs]

That was his qualifying offer. We could not offer him less.

Which he declined, indicating he probably wouldn't accept a 2M deal...

 

[Avelanche]

in ceci's defense there's probably only like 5 dman in the league that wouldn't look like shit on a team that won 25 games and gave up 300 goals or whatever.

 

[Mr Positive]

in ceci's defense there's probably only like 5 dman in the league that wouldn't look like **** on a team that won 25 games and gave up 300 goals or whatever.

also he plays a lot of minutes. If you look at like cash/minutes he probably is a good deal even, and if you play a lot then having some rough stats like his plus minus will be exaggerated. The same thing happened to Schultz in Edmonton.

 

[TheBradyBunch]

That was his qualifying offer. We could not offer him less.

Nah, we could. Flames did it with Kulak.

I think there is some time frame you have to wait. I could be wrong though.

Pretty sure you can trade a player immediately after arbitration but can't find anything to corroborate that.

 

[Fantomas]

That Mike Matheson deal beginning to look good.

 

[TML1967]

As a Leafs fan I've always thought he was decent. With a good partner he could be a decent #4/5.
Money is a bit steep but not nearly the worst deal for a D man. Could be worse.

 

[Pestilence]

TA-BAR-NAK!!

they wont walkaway... Karlsson's pretty much gone and if you trade Ceci (or walk away), you have Chris Wideman as your no.1 RHD

It could be worse. You could have Cody Ceci as your no.1 RHD

a joke, relax

 

[LeapOnOver]

Why would they walk away? Who are you going to replace him with? The arbitrator ruled based on the current market--its honestly not that bad. Especially when you consider the idea Ottawa's about to purge all high end talent.

There is no way they would walk away from it. They'll pay him his 4.3m and then trade him when that contract is up and he's still an RFA if they really don't want him. I'd say there is 0% that they walk away from the arbitrator's ruling. Not sure if it has ever even happened...

Edit: I do have to include a warning though, if a team owner would ever do that it'd be Ottawa's lol.

 

[TheGroceryStick]

Good deal for a solid RHD

 

[me2]

The only consolation for Ottawa in accepting the award is seeing other teams get hit with flow on effects Ceci-level guys getting paid.

 

[ZZamboni]

To help OTT with the cap floor.. Trade ya Bogo and Pominville for Ceci and a 3rd 2020.

 

[mja]

Ceci would make 200K less than Gostisbehere, who's signed for another 5 years. That's rough.

 

[justafan22]

also he plays a lot of minutes. If you look at like cash/minutes he probably is a good deal even, and if you play a lot then having some rough stats like his plus minus will be exaggerated. The same thing happened to Schultz in Edmonton.

I mean there is value in being healthy and playing a ton of minutes as a dman. He isn't worth 4.3 million, but there's a reason why guys like him stick around in the NHL for a decade

 

[Price is Wright]

in ceci's defense there's probably only like 5 dman in the league that wouldn't look like **** on a team that won 25 games and gave up 300 goals or whatever.

Montreal wasn't as bad in goals against but they were a trashfire on defence. Weber played hurt, Alzner is already in Josh Gorges Buffalo Sabres 2018 mode, Benn sucked, Schlemko sucked, etc.

That said, Jeff Petry had a really good season and stepped up far more than he was expected to. Mike Reilly was able to walk in and make people wonder if he's better than originally presented (likely just had a hot streak), and the rookies all showed some good skill in the systems compared to their counterparts.

What I'm getting at is that there are players who don't look good because their team sucks, and players who make their teams suck. Ceci makes his team suck. He ain't gonna play for a contender for $1M and suddenly be this great contributor.

 

[edguy]

Right. I'm suggesting that maybe he wants out

Yes cause he really wants to leave the team he grew up loving, and who thinks he is a god sent straight from heaven, to go to a team offering less money for a lesser role, where he is going to be held accountable.

Makes total sense to me

 

[Maukkis]

I'm not so sure. There's pretty much not a d-man in the league who is more thrown to the wolves than Ceci. What we know is that he's nowhere near able to be effective in those minutes, but that doesn't mean that he wouldn't look vastly different playing next to a Gardiner, for example. That would be a better neutral zone player than he's used to, and easier minutes than he's pretty much ever got.

Not that I'm actually arguing to acquire him, it's just that extreme situations like his can be hard to judge.

Usually you can speculate what players could be capable of, but in the cases of guys like Ristolainen and Ceci, we might only know what they absolutely can not do.

...and yet they are paid like proven second pairing guys.

 

[BM14]

As for Ceci, Ott will need that to hit the contract floor as the rest of their AHL team other than Stone and Karlsson (before they're traded) don't make enough to hit it.