CBJ Goalie Poll - 2019/2020 season

[chauron]

Veini "Wayne" Vehvilainen will surprise you all this year

 

[Double-Shift Lasse]

Veini "Wayne" Vehvilainen will surprise you all this year

By doing what?

 

[Ice9]

By doing what?

He's learned to hold his breath for 3 minutes whilst patting his head and rubbing his tum tum. Wait till you see it!!!

 

[CBJ goalie]

This is like a Family Guy cutaway.

 

[thebus88]

13 vs 44

NEW POLL: Which number will be bigger, the amount of people who voted for Korpisalo in this poll or the amount of games Merzlikins starts in the NHL?

Making it too easy for me this year.

AGAIN.

Joonas Kropisalo

And mark my words, I'll be chastised in the future for being irked when people jump on the Korpisalo bandwagon.

Nothing tangible makes Merzlikins a better goalie or gives him more potential than Korpisalo.

I have a feeling this will 100 percent be a post that will be quoted often this year (more so after approximately december 1st)

Congrats, you had a prediction come true.

 

[Theo Von]

13 vs 44

NEW POLL: Which number will be bigger, the amount of people who voted for Korpisalo in this poll or the amount of games Merzlikins starts in the NHL?





Congrats, you had a prediction come true.

check the GDT from last night; I admitted that I have been wrong about Korpi thus far.

 

[Viqsi]

13 vs 44

NEW POLL: Which number will be bigger, the amount of people who voted for Korpisalo in this poll or the amount of games Merzlikins starts in the NHL?

Three wins - one of which had a good SV% - and you're already declaring victory?

By that logical standard, everyone in the "pro-Wennberg" camp should be chastising you for not believing in him.

 

[brianhatesu]

Three wins - one of which had a good SV% - and you're already declaring victory?

By that logical standard, everyone in the "pro-Wennberg" camp should be chastising you for not believing in him.

That’s normally the Korpi kiss of death. How many times last season did he declare Korpi the starter only to see Bob start the next stretch. Its going to take more than a few good games for me to buy in to Korpi. Let’s see where he is at the end of the month and maybe I’ll change my opinion a little.

 

[CBJWerenski8]

13 vs 44

NEW POLL: Which number will be bigger, the amount of people who voted for Korpisalo in this poll or the amount of games Merzlikins starts in the NHL?





Congrats, you had a prediction come true.

Dude, we're still in October?

 

[brakeyawself]

Shocking! A 25 year old GK goes directly from the Swiss league to the NHL and is found to have holes in his game. Crazy.

All jokes aside. 2 games in to Elvis’ NHL career and he still needs to adjust. I doubt he will look comfortable before New Years. They had to know brining him in like this would require patience. He really should be given a pass this entire season.

 

[EXTRAS]

Given Elvis is a rookie I wouldn't be surprised if they send him down and give one of the other guys a try for a few games, and then let Elvis come back up...vehvilainen is a pretty good goalie too.

 

[Doggy]

I am not in the CBJ market so I don't hear all the scuttlebutt.

Korpi was PISSED after that third breakaway against which Gritty scored on. If I was him I would have been pissed too. Like "Daenerys on a Dragon" pissed.

Has there been much talk? Has Korpi talked to the media and was he honest or just towed the company line and said the right things? Just wondering where his head is at this moment. He's clearly the #1 to me but you don't usually see a goalie lose it like that when you know he isn't just flat out mad at himself.

 

[CBJWerenski8]

 

[DarkandStormy]

Korpisalo shouldn't be starting 10 in 12 games. He's a sub-.900 goalie -> exactly who he's been the last 3+ years. The "starting more games will make him better" hasn't translated to being that much better. Meanwhile, we don't know if Elvis is any better because Torts won't play him, maybe because of his 7-goal debacle against Pittsburgh (who, btw, has done that to three others teams already!).

 

[majormajor]

Korpisalo shouldn't be starting 10 in 12 games. He's a sub-.900 goalie -> exactly who he's been the last 3+ years. The "starting more games will make him better" hasn't translated to being that much better. Meanwhile, we don't know if Elvis is any better because Torts won't play him, maybe because of his 7-goal debacle against Pittsburgh (who, btw, has done that to three others teams already!).

Look at Korpi's save percentage game by game. He started rough, he kept playing, it went up. Five straight appearances above .900.

I'm not arguing that there's anything conclusive about that, it's far too early, but it sure doesn't look like your conclusion can be supported.

 

[DarkandStormy]

Look at Korpi's save percentage game by game. He started rough, he kept playing, it went up. Five straight appearances above .900.

I'm not arguing that there's anything conclusive about that, it's far too early, but it sure doesn't look like your conclusion can be supported.

He had four straight games above league average. Cool? Are we supposed to just ignore his first two outings and/or his last two? His last 68 games suggest he's a sub-.900, below average goalie.

 

[majormajor]

He had four straight games above league average. Cool? Are we supposed to just ignore his first two outings and/or his last two? His last 68 games suggest he's a sub-.900, below average goalie.

The point is that you should wait until you get a bigger sample. I'm not saying you should be leaving out this or that start, I'm saying if all it takes is leaving out this or that start to completely change his numbers, then it's way too early to be drawing firm conclusions.

And if you were actually honestly trying to answer the question of whether repeated starts makes Korpi better, then leaving out backup starts and the first couple starts of the year would be appropriate.

 

[DarkandStormy]

The point is that you should wait until you get a bigger sample. I'm not saying you should be leaving out this or that start, I'm saying if all it takes is leaving out this or that start to completely change his numbers, then it's way too early to be drawing firm conclusions.

And if you were actually honestly trying to answer the question of whether repeated starts makes Korpi better, then leaving out backup starts and the first couple starts of the year would be appropriate.

He has had 9 of the first 11 starts this year. That's repeated starts. He has a .896 save %.

 

[majormajor]

He has had 9 of the first 11 starts this year. That's repeated starts. He has a .896 save %.

Yes and believe it or not that's a very small sample and worth jack squat. The rank of goalies by save percentage in October is not going to be the same at the end of the year.

Bobrovsky had Mason-esque numbers in his first month in Columbus in 2013, sub .900, and we know how the rest of that year went.

 

[bert]

Do you guys want Craig Anderson? Can be had for cheap and is a veteran starting goaltender. Now that Ottawa has a competent coach with a real system his numbers and play have returned. UFA at the end of the year, very little risk. Could probably be had for a 3rd rounder.

 

[Fireball23]

Do you guys want Craig Anderson? Can be had for cheap and is a veteran starting goaltender. Now that Ottawa has a competent coach with a real system his numbers and play have returned. UFA at the end of the year, very little risk. Could probably be had for a 3rd rounder.

No... that would waste a year of getting these players NHL action. They need it.

 

[Ice9]

No... that would waste a year of getting these players NHL action. They need it.

Agreed. Elvis needs seasoned. School will be in session all season for him.

 

[DarkandStormy]

Updating for current stats.

Just expanding on this (through 11/4/19), here are the goalie stats since McElhinney was waived:
-Sergei Bobrovsky: 96-59-13, 169 total appearances; .918 sv% (t-13), 2.48 GAA, 19 shutouts
-Curtis McElhinney: 38-24-5, 69 total appearances; .917 sv% (t-16), 2.61 GAA, 6 shutouts
-Anton Forsberg: 10-14-4, 36 total appearances; .906 sv% (t-52), 3.01 GAA, 0 shutouts
-Joonas Korpisalo: 30-25-6, 70 total appearances; .898 sv% (65), 3.09 GAA, 1 shutout

Limited sample size to goalies with 30+ games played, which is 70 goalies in that span. The only goalies behind Korpisalo in terms of save percentage are Peter Budaj (unsigned/retired), Calvin Pickard (AHL), Scott Darling (Austria), Antti Niemi (KHL), and Chad Johnson (unsigned/retired).

 

[CBJ goalie]

Elvis getting called up from the Monsters, 'cause Korpi is throwing some fits after goals.

Torts not happy with Korpi's attitude, making an example of him.....hope Elvis takes the reins, we need one of them to do it.

 

[DarkandStormy]

Elvis getting called up from the Monsters, 'cause Korpi is throwing some fits after goals.

Torts not happy with Korpi's attitude, making an example of him.....hope Elvis takes the reins, we need one of them to do it.

So, in order we had:
1) Korpi throws on-ice outburst
2) Korpi apologizes to teammates on the plane afterwards
3) Torts/FO confirm they chatted with Korpi about it and made it clear it's not to happen again
4) Korpi does it again
5) Torts says they'll have to address it
6) They address it by...sitting Korpi one game after a long stretch when he probably would have sat anyway?

Yeah, real strong message sent.

So much for trying to get Elvis time as well. It's coming up on borderline insanity that Elvis has ZERO home starts - regular season or preseason. Outside of his debut, he's played as well or even better than Korpisalo, but is still getting ~25% of the starts. The goalie usage makes no sense to me.