Proposal: CBJ-EDM

[Kuznetsnow]

To Edmonton - Domi, Nyquist

To CBJ - RNH, Neal

Edmonton replaces RNH with Domi, probably a downgrade but Domi brings a physical/pest element that they could use. Playing in Canada with McDavid/Drasaitl would probably jump start him a bit over playing in Columbus for Tortorella. Nyquist is out for the season but when he comes back he's potentially a solid upgrade on Neal and slightly cheaper. That's also a loooooot of cap space opened up for Edmonton this year should they go for a rental.

Jackets get to try out Laine with RNH, there's not many legit offensive top 6 centers available and RNH has a Stastny like game that should mesh well with Laine, at least on paper. They can absorb Neal with Nyquist going the other way and losing Dubinsky this upcoming season and probably get something out of him as a sheltered PP specialist

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[The Moose is Loose]

I think in a hockey trade like this the team giving up the best piece is losing majority of the time and RNH is far and away the best piece.

Since being moved to the wing (January 1st last year) Nugent-Hopkins is 9th in the NHL in points with 57 in his past 54. That's in front of Mackinnon, Pastrnak, Marchand, Stamkos, Crosby etc
Obviously playing next to Draisaitl or McDavid boosts his offense but he is a known commodity who can produce big numbers next to elite talent. Domi/Nyquist could come in and have no chemistry and then the Oilers are out one of their 3 offensive threats.

 

[Mrfenn92]

Oilers say no

 

[Kuznetsnow]

I think in a hockey trade like this the team giving up the best piece is losing majority of the time and RNH is far and away the best piece.

Since being moved to the wing (January 1st last year) Nugent-Hopkins is 9th in the NHL in points with 57 in his past 54. That's in front of Mackinnon, Pastrnak, Marchand, Stamkos, Crosby etc
Obviously playing next to Draisaitl or McDavid boosts his offense but he is a known commodity who can produce big numbers next to elite talent. Domi/Nyquist could come in and have no chemistry and then the Oilers are out one of their 3 offensive threats.

Is Edmonton resigning RNH? This gives them an extra year of cost certainity.

Also if Nyquist comes back for the playoffs Kucherov style, which is likely, they could potentially run him plus a rental such as Hall or Granlund acquired while he's still on LTIR for the regular season and just overpower everyone

 

[Taytro]

I have no desire to do this from an Oilers perspective. I think RNH is the best piece and despite contracts (RNH expiring and Neal being an anchor), it makes Edmonton a worse team.

Simple thanks but no thanks from me.

 

[ConnorMcNugesaitl]

Edmonton should definitely pass but I'd understand if taking on Neal makes Columbus pass as well.

 

[majormajor]

From Edmonton's perspective I preferred the version of the RNH deal with Elvis as the centerpiece and Domi as the secondary piece. I mostly prefer to just keep RNH, but getting a huge goalie upgrade is one of the things that would make me think about it. Nyquist is also a good player but not worth moving RNH.

From Columbus' perspective I'd do it if there is a reasonable extension (not more than $7m per), and assuming it works financially. I'm not sure they can squeeze that much more under the cap. Maybe there's more room under Dubinsky's LTIR cap benefit but I'm not sure how that works.

I think in a hockey trade like this the team giving up the best piece is losing majority of the time and RNH is far and away the best piece.

Since being moved to the wing (January 1st last year) Nugent-Hopkins is 9th in the NHL in points with 57 in his past 54. That's in front of Mackinnon, Pastrnak, Marchand, Stamkos, Crosby etc
Obviously playing next to Draisaitl or McDavid boosts his offense but he is a known commodity who can produce big numbers next to elite talent. Domi/Nyquist could come in and have no chemistry and then the Oilers are out one of their 3 offensive threats.

I think Edmonton should keep RNH, but whether he actually has offensive chemistry with McDavid is debatable. RNH only has 8 5v5 points this year despite playing with McDavid almost every game, most of his production is on the PP. There was that glorious half year last year with Draisaitl and Yamamoto, and perhaps they can rekindle that. Or perhaps RNH reverts to what he has always been other than that, which is a player that doesn't produce much at 5v5, with a scoring rate like an average 2C. I think the PP production and defensive contribution can't be left aside though. The Oilers should keep him.

 

[majormajor]

Also if Nyquist comes back for the playoffs Kucherov style, which is likely, they could potentially run him plus a rental such as Hall or Granlund acquired while he's still on LTIR for the regular season and just overpower everyone

I hadn't really thought of this.

It would allow the Oilers to get quite loaded for the run. It looks like an extra $7m in cap space for this year, by my count.

I'd rather they keep RNH, but if they are deciding that they can't keep him then I could see how this deal sets them up nicely.

 

[MNRube]

Not a horrible idea but the value favors CBJ. Oilers need a pick or prospect coming their way. RNH is underrated and Cs are at a premium right now.

 

[Kuznetsnow]

Not a horrible idea but the value favors CBJ. Oilers need a pick or prospect coming their way. RNH is underrated and Cs are at a premium right now.

Add in Turris going to Columbus and Nash going to Edmonton?

Turris is useless in Edmonton and Nash could soak up defensive minutes as 3C without giving up piles goals as Edmonton's bottom 6 tends to. If Nash and Haas come close to breaking on goal differential even McDavid and Drasaitl doubling up their opponents would win a lot more games.

Feels like it should be a hockey trade as more middling picks/prospects will do f*** all for Edmonton

 

[The Moose is Loose]

Is Edmonton resigning RNH? This gives them an extra year of cost certainity.

Also if Nyquist comes back for the playoffs Kucherov style, which is likely, they could potentially run him plus a rental such as Hall or Granlund acquired while he's still on LTIR for the regular season and just overpower everyone

I bet they end up resigning him as he is more of need than a luxury on their team right now.

 

[Sweetpotato]

Elvis+Domi+Nash

RNH+Koskinen+Turris

If Edmonton knows RNH isn't signing I'd be fine with something like this. But I imagine this is a move made after Elvis returns from injury.

 

[Sweetpotato]

Elvis+Domi+Nash

RNH+Koskinen/Neal+Turris

If Edmonton knows RNH isn't signing I'd be fine with something like this. But I imagine this is a move made after Elvis returns from injury.

 

[Viqsi]

I am pretty fiercely opposed to anything that involves us taking on a cap dump.

 

[DarthProbert]

To Edmonton - Domi, Nyquist

To CBJ - RNH, Neal

Edmonton replaces RNH with Domi, probably a downgrade

Gee, you think?

 

[Hunter368]

Lots of talk in the past about RNH extended for Laine when the Jets were looking for a centre. Laine with McDavid as his centre would be scary.

 

[TFHockey]

Lots of talk in the past about RNH extended for Laine when the Jets were looking for a centre. Laine with McDavid as his centre would be scary.

I agree. A real pure goal scorer with McDavid would be a treat to watch. Swapping RNH for Laine would help the Oilers offense.

 

[coopooter]

Nuge re-signs with Oil. He probably hits UFA if he’s traded. Oil say no because of value. CBJ says no because they get stuck with Neal

 

[Hunter368]

I agree. A real pure goal scorer with McDavid would be a treat to watch. Swapping RNH for Laine would help the Oilers offense.

CBJ need a top 6 centre far more then a non play driving winger IMO.

 

[Mersss]

Nuge re-signs with Oil. He probably hits UFA if he’s traded. Oil say no because of value. CBJ says no because they get stuck with Neal

So you'll bottom line be the next TML... Considering RNH will more than likely command a salary similar to Duchene.

 

[TFHockey]

So you'll bottom line be the next TML... Considering RNH will more than likely command a salary similar to Duchene.

Domi isn't going to help Edmonton at all. If that is the trade proposal you're talking about, that is.

 

[Mersss]

Domi isn't going to help Edmonton at all. If that is the trade proposal you're talking about, that is.

Not saying otherwhise, Just saying that In the event where the Oilers sign him back, they can't expect to sign him @ 5.5/6M$ when comparable players got 8/8.5M$ on the open market

 

[TFHockey]

Not saying otherwhise, Just saying that In the event where the Oilers sign him back, they can't expect to sign him @ 5.5/6M$ when comparable players got 8/8.5M$ on the open market

Oh, then I pretty much agree. I hope he signs for $7 Million AAV or less, but I really don't know how Holland will handle RNH or how far RNH and his agent are willing to test the UFA waters.

 

[ViD]

I like it from Columbus standpoint but only if we can re-sign Nuge

 

[LTIR]

I'll take Foudy over Domi in a RNH to CBJ trade.