You do realize that hockey in the 80s-90s is completely different to hockey today? The league was different and it was much higher scoring back then.
Also this year was Caufield's 19 year old season, so he was U-20.
Since 2000-21, Caufield has the best goals/game season and 4th best pts/game season for u20 players.
Elite Prospects - NCAA Stats All-time season
Look at the top 35 in pts/game for u20 players, almost all of them had a good nhl career.
Despite this, I still precised in my previous post that it doesn't guarantee a good nhl career (nothing does after all). Its a good sign for future nhl success.
Seems like I have to be extremely careful about names I throw out there because you're extremely quick at drawing
conclusions...
that I wasn't trying to make. I never intended to compare Tufto or Hrkac to Caufield. I named those 2 guys/examples as an attempt to explain you WHY I personally take college stats with a grain of salt (
I do for every non NHL league as well). Like I said, if you want to take them to the bank, it's your own choice but I don't have to do the same.
Yes, obviously it's a different "era" but even though scoring changed over the years, I still have my reservations. You can look at it more recently and you'll also find 20 y/o guys that also had "crazy good seasons" : Nathan Gerbe, Andy Hilbert, Brett Sterling, J.T. Compher, Brandon Bochenski, etc to name a few (many of them on the small side)
I mean,
it's not that it doesn't happen in every league, however I tend to take pro league stats as a better indication. Euro leagues is another story because the game and the rink size are different. In the end,
the "smallest grain of salt" for me is AHL stats.
But anyway, not even sure why I need to spend time arguing that. I already said that I think Caufield will be somewhere in between Atkinson and DeBrincat... I mean, it's a pretty good outcome, no? I'm just saying that his college stats doesn't garantee him to be a superstar, hence the grain of salt thing. I never said "his college stats are useless so he's likely to become a no-name player"... maybe that's your interpertation (poor reading skills?)
Note : Caufield is born on January 2... saying it's his 19/o season is a bit disingenuous as he was 20 for most of the season... Was it Pinto 19 y/o season as he's born November 12? We're talking a few weeks difference. Another thing not worth debating.
You said NCAA stats should be taken with a grain of salt (basically meaning useless) because there are players there that produces well, but don't end up having success in the nhl. That's your logic.
However in every single league, you will find players (of any height) that have had success there, but couldn't replicate it in the nhl. So your logic about the NCAA stats not meaning much should be applied to these other leagues as well, hence the stats of every player in non-nhl league should be taken with a grain of salt.
I don't know if english is like your 3rd langage (like it is for me) but "take with a grain of salt" DOES NOT MEAN "useless" in any way, shape or form... Maybe that's where the problem and debate comes from : you simply do not understand what it means...
Maybe next time, try to look it up when you don't know something? That'd save us a lot of typing lol
take with a grain of salt
also, take with a pinch of salt
Meaning:
- to understand that something is not completely true or right
- not take something too seriously
- accept, but with some reservations or skepticism
- don’t exactly believe something
Source: theidioms.com
So yeah, knowing that, you certainly dont get "my logic". I
never said that I don't take other league stats with a grain of salt. I highlighted 2 parts that I wrote a few minutes ago in the quote above
I have no idea why you would think that I do that only for the NCAA